Posted by - sk89 - on 20 April 2013 - 10:02am

• Posted by - prasi - on 6 September 2014 - 9:49pm

  @surabhi my personal opinion LBS:ambitious HEC:may(90%) not be selected ESCP: WIll definitely be selected even if averagely performed in the video interview

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  • Posted by - mayank.saraswat - on 20 March 2015 - 12:48am

    Greetings!
    This thread was very informative and helpful. I wish to share my dilemma here. I have recieved an admission call from International Masters in Industrial Management (IMIM), Europe which is a Erasmus+ program. But I am not being shortlisted for the scholarship. After a thorough reserach on internet, I could find mixed reviews about the course. Does anyone here have idea about the course or job prospects on the offer?
    Any help would be highly appreciated.

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    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 20 March 2015 - 9:38am

      Hi there,

      I think it would be wise to ask the school to bring you in contact with alumni ad current students. Particularly the alumni may be able to tell you where graduates end up. It is not about job propects "in Europe", by the way, but about specific job prospects for graduates of this program.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

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• Posted by - surabhi.grover.93@gmail.com - on 14 August 2014 - 10:54am

  Hi Thomas,

  I would like to apply for MIM in HEC Paris, LBS and ESCP. Can you please have a look at my profile and comment on it?

  College: Good Engineering College in India (Trade: Electronics)
  C.G.P.A: 8.6/10
  Good extra curriculars
  3 internships, one of them being in a well known Consulting Firm (6 months)
  Working in the same firm for 2 months now.

  GRE score: 318
  I'm writing GRE again in a month.

  Thanks,
  Surabhi

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  • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 15 August 2014 - 12:02am

    Hi there,

    have you read my MIM eBook already? By this you will better understand what MIM programs and schools require. Key is academic excellence (being in the top of your class; so you need to find out what 8.6 means) and having a top GMAT or GRE scores (read my book to see how you can find out what schools expect).

    Best wishes
    Thomas

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• Posted by - sunny mukherjee - on 11 May 2013 - 6:17pm

  Sir
  If we get placed in Business schools like LBS or HEC or any other top business schools in Europe for MIM programme will we get a good job in Europe as the people are not getting any jobs in Europe and many of my friends have returned after doing their MIM from there as they didnt get any job.

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  • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 11 May 2013 - 10:56pm

    Hi there,

    thank you for your question. You raise an important question: How are your job prospects with a Master in Management? I understand that you have doubts on the value of a MIM program and analysing a degree's career potential in advance is exactly the right way.

    Let's start with some general thoughts.

    • First, there is never a job guarantee. Some schools like Harvard may come close to a guarantee but even Harvard cannot provide you with a 100 percent guarantee.
    • Second, whether you get a job later on and whether this is a "good" job (for example, a job that satisfies you), depends on many things among which the program is just one impact factor. For example, it depends on your performance in the interview with the employer; or it depends on whether you picked the right school for YOUR preferences. If you are not interested or qualified in investment banking, for instance, and you choose a school where most graduates start their career in IB, then this may be the wrong choice. Instead, you should have looked for schools in advance with a network to your favorite industries.
    • Even though there is no job guarantee, education always increases your chances of finding a job.
    • A bias often mentioned from people outside of Europe is that there are no jobs in Europe, due to weak economies. I recommend throwing a more differentiated view on Europe. Europe means more than 45 states with different economies. All of these states have jobs and positions, even those with the weakest economies. All of these staes have career opportunities. Because of that, I recommend to focus on business schools with a strong reputation and career network more than on country's economies. I am not suggesting to ignore economies but I would emphasize more the career potential of a school's network and I would differentiate between countries and schools.
    • When you choose a school, also consider its reputation in other countries than the campus country - especially if you want to work also in other countries.
    • Try to get a more differentiated view on programs by finding out whether your personal experience "many of my friends did not find a job" means that this program offers only low job prospects or whether the program is only weak for specific people with a certain background (e.g. people from specific geographic regions, people with specific backgrounds etc.). It can, indeed, be that a school is strong in placing graduates with a technical background and weaker when it comes to placing graduates with a marketing background - depending on the profiles that companies search for on campus. It can also be that VISA regulations make it difficult for graduates from foreign countries to find jobs in the country of campus. This does not, however, mean that the degree is without value. And this can be researched in advance so that no "rude awakening" happens later on.

    After these rather general thoughts - in fact, inspirations for a deeper thinking, I recommend you to take some specific steps:

    • Clear for yourself where you would like to work ideally (country, industry, firm).
    • Then look for schools in your favorite countries, where companies from your favorite industries recruit, and where your favorite employers recruit.
    • As a next step, contact the schools and ask them specifically about their experiences with placing people with your profile (background and nationality). For example, if a school cannot tell you that it has placed sucessfully MIM graduates of your nationality in the past, I would be hesitant to study there.

    Best wishes
    Thomas

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• Posted by - sk89 - on 20 April 2013 - 11:52am

  Hey Thomas,

  Thank you so much for your reply and consideration of my query. It's great that you have replied with a deep insight into my case.

  Well, I would surely get along with what you have discussed and will get back to you in about a day or two and discuss what further doubts I have and what I have found.

  Thank you so much.

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• Posted by - sk89 - on 20 April 2013 - 10:17am

  I would like to give some details regarding my profile:

  Degree - Bachelor of Technology, Chemical Engineering
  University - IIT Kharagpur, India
  Undergrad CGPA - 8.2/10 (B.Tech Honors)
  Extra-Curriculars: Pretty good I would say. Actively involved in the cultural festival of my college which cultivates nation-wide attention.

  Current Employer - India's largest Oil and Gas Company.
  Work Exp: 1 year.

  GMAT Score: 740.

  I hope this much is sufficient.

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  • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 20 April 2013 - 11:13am

    Hi there,

    it looks like you have several steps in front of you right now:

    1. Find the right business school
    2. Apply for this business school and get invited for the interview.
    3. Pass the interview successfully and get accepted.
    4. Pass the studies
    5. Find a job in Europe
    6. Find a job in India

    As for finding the right business school, the HEC clearly is a great address. But as you can see in the Financial Times Ranking, there are also other renowned programs - and if you screen the curricula of, say the first 10, you may find other schools with strategy as elective or concentration as well.

    In addition, you may want to seach for Masters in Strategy and apply for one of them - or, alternatively, apply for a Master in Management at a school that also offers a Master in Strategy (and by this demonstrates competence in that area).

    I just give you this options so that you have more leeway in this respect. Before you choose your final school, however, I would go one step further and clarify (1) which firms recruit there and if you want to work there, and (2) how much experience the school has with people of your nationality (the more experience the higher the chances that you get placed into a firm by them).

    Once you have your favorite 1, 2, or 3 schools, you apply for them and due to your CV I am confident that you will become invited for the interview. If you manage the interview well you get the letter of acceptance and start your studies soon.

    A final comment: If you want to work in India after 2 or 3 years you may reflect a bit - not too much but a bit preliminary research never hurts - where you ideally would like to work (industry and firms) and what these firms require. Do they know, for instance, the HEC or your other favorite schools and positively favor them?

    Now you have a plan of action that hopefully gives you some direction.

    Best wishes
    Thomas

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