Profile Evaluation, and what's the deal with HEC and LBS

Application & Admission
  • Posted by justanotherapplicant on 09/29/13 5:46pm

    Dear Thomas,

    I would like to know how you know that a 630/640 GMAT score is okay for HEC? I contacted an admission officer there after I received my score of 650 (lower than I expected, I was super sick and took the test under the influence of a lot of Aspirin). The website states that the median score is 710, which I found ridiculous so I asked her about standard deviation, etc. so that I could estimate my chances.
    I received an answer in which I was asked what my quant score was, also stating that a high (49-51) quant score with the overall result of 650 would be okay, otherwise she suggested to take the test again. My quant score was only 41 (complete average) and my verbal was a bit stronger. I haven't received the final results yet and hope that IR and AWA don't drag it down even further. I haven't reported it to any schools yet.

    Also, my HEC and ESCP applications both go through SAI since my degree is from the American University of Paris, which is accredited in the US, therefore making me an "international applicant" (I'm German). At AUP I received an overall GPA of 3.989 (One A- in my second semester English class..), and at NYU, where I did my semester abroad, I received a 3.825.

    My problem is that my SAI application is already registered to apply to both HEC and ESCP (deadline for the first round is October, 15th), but while my GMAT is apparently too low for HEC, its average for ESCP.

    Another questions I have is, why does London Business School not appear on the Financial Times ranking? I've only heard good things about this school and have already attended an information event, which also made admission seem tough. So what's Financial Times' problem with LBS?

    Thank you for your help!

    • Posted by justanotherapplicant on 09/29/13 5:51pm

      Other details I forgot to mention:
      I graduated in May 2013 and am now interning at a large executive search firm in Frankfurt. I did not do any internships during my time at AUP (Bachelors in Economics and Entrepreneurship, double degree, both honors), because the regular time to finish an American undergrad is four years and I did it in three (summer courses and overloads each semester don't leave much time for extracurriculars and internships). That's why I'm taking this year to gain more work experience.

    • Posted by Thomas Graf on 09/30/13 6:55pm

      Hi there,

      thank you for your question. The 630 / 640 GMAT score I received from my direct contact in the HEC Master in Management admissions office. It is just an orientation and no guarantee or official statement.

      As for the FT Ranking, there are certain requirements to become eligible. For example, schools may have run the program for 4 years. Hence, programs can be great but still may not appear in the ranking for some formal reasons. I don't know exactly why LBS is not included this year but I will try to find out and let you know. The important point is, however: There is nothing wrong with the LBS MIM. At least, that's my opinion. The institution is so renowned that I have a lot of trust in their competencies and I am sure that there is a simple explanation why their MIM is not included this year.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

      By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by Thomas Graf on 10/01/13 4:24pm

      Hi there,

      I have conformation from the Financial Times now. The LBS did not take part as the school did not graduate students from its MiM until 2011. The FT surveys students who graduated three years earlier than the ranking year, so LBS will be eligible to participate in the 2014 ranking.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

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