Is my Bachelor enough?

Application & Admission
  • Posted by Schwadi on 12/13/11 3:50pm

    Hi,

    I currently complete my Bachelors degree at a dutch University of Applied Sciences and I am wondering whether my degree is sufficient to complete a good MIM.
    My Bachelor is a BBA in Tourism Management. However, as my last year I complete an academic pre-master in Strategic Business Management & Marketing, which is in partnership with the University of Maastricht. This means I would actually be granted direct access to the MIM at Maastricht University but I want to see which other choices I have.

    The Stockholm School of Economics for example requests "a bachelor degree with at least 90 ECTS in Business Administration (including up to 30 ECTS in Economics) with a minimum of 15 ECTS in Management"

    How would you judge my qualification for good universities (since I always have Maastricht as backup). The picture shows the courses I have in my Bachelor's degree (numbers on the right are the ECTS).

    Thanks for your help!

    • Posted by Thomas Graf on 12/13/11 8:35pm

      Hi Schwadi,

      thank you for your question. Basically, you have three groups of Masters in Managment:

      1. MIM-Programs that require a first degree in business or economics
      2. MIM-Programs that are open to ANY discipline
      3. MIM-Programs that are open for SOME disciplines other than busines or economics

      The more academic business experience you have the more you should try to go for a Master in Management of group 1 or at least 3. These programs will expect some business knowledge from you right at the beginning and do not cover basic courses again. In other words, if you have business knowledge already it makes sense to avoid any redundancy in the curriculum and go for group 1 or 3.

      You can search for group 1 by using our Search Filter "Entry requirements: academic degree in business/economics required". Group 3 is full included in the other option "Entry requirements: no academic degree in business / economics required" - hence you will not easily identify them.

      So, coming to your question "Which options do I have for good MIM", I would

      • clear which countries are interesting for you
      • search for schools in our Search Filter with programs that require business or economics as first degree

      Now, the question is: Do you have enough Credits in Business courses to apply for them? Stockholm seems to be a bit demanding but there are many others. Since I don't know the requirements for the individual schools nor your country preferences, I recommend you to investigate in 3 to 5 schools from the list that you obtained by using the procedure mentioned above.

      • Outcome 1: You find other schools in your favorite country that (a) require business and (b) accept your prior business knowedge: Here you have the answer to your question.
      • Outcome 2: You don't find schools that (a) require business and (b) accept your pre-experience: Then you should go for Group 3

      How identify Group 3 schools?
      Select your countries of preference in our Search Filter and select "Entry requirements: business NOT required". Then go through the schools and read their entry requirements on the websites.

      • Take 3 to 5 schools that are open for people from SOME other disciplines than business - but that are not open for people from any discipline
      • Contact them (phone, email) and ask them if your formal qualifications are sufficient.

      This is the more time intensive approach but it's the only one and your time investment eventually will pay-off.

      Overall, my intuition is that you will find some schools from Group 1 that perceive your qualification as sufficient and that you definitely will get accepted from schools of Group 3.

      If you are interested in a MIM from the MIM-COMPASS Business School Clients of course let me know. I am happy to build a private contact between them and you or forward your Credit history.

      I hope I could be helpful
      Thomas

    • Posted by abhishek on 12/26/11 3:00pm

      Hello Sir,
      I am from India,completed my Graduation in Bachelors of commerce from (Nagpur University) which is a "B Grade University" with an aggregate of 55%,which is below average percentage(if you want to know my subjects and particular marks,i can provide you that ) .I also did internship in my Second and Final year,currently working in consumer goods company with few months of experience.My GMAT score is 620,I am interested to do Master in Management course from world ranking business school .I think my bachelors degree is not enough to get into high ranking business school, Therefore my focus is on Lower Ranking business school.I want an intake in June to September in 2012.Things which are worrying me is

      1.Do Ranking Schools accept this Degree?

      2.Which Countries and Business School, i must focus because i am ready to go any part of the world ?

      Need your advice
      Thanks and Regards

      • Posted by Thomas Graf on 12/26/11 6:40pm

        Hi Abhishek,

        thank you for your post. Let me turn your questions around and ask you back:

        • In which countries would you like to study?
        • In which country or countries (area) do you want to work directly after your Master in Management?
        • Why do you want to do a Master NOW? Are you not happy with you current job?

        Best wishes
        Thomas

    • Posted by abhishek on 12/26/11 3:01pm

      Hello Sir,
      I am from India,completed my Graduation in Bachelors of commerce from (Nagpur University) which is a "B Grade University" with an aggregate of 55%,which is below average percentage(if you want to know my subjects and particular marks,i can provide you that ) .I also did internship in my Second and Final year,currently working in consumer goods company with few months of experience.My GMAT score is 620,I am interested to do Master in Management course from world ranking business school .I think my bachelors degree is not enough to get into high ranking business school, Therefore my focus is on Lower Ranking business school.I want an intake in June to September in 2012.Things which are worrying me is

      1.Do Ranking Schools accept this Degree?

      2.Which Countries and Business School, i must focus because i am ready to any part of the world ?

      Need your advice
      Thanks and Regards

    • Posted by abhishek on 12/26/11 10:05pm

      Hi Thomas,

      Thanks for your prompt reply.Let me answer your questions

      1.)In which countries would you like to study?
      France or Germany, would be a place i would to love to study.But i think my graduation degree can create problems therefore,my primary criteria is quality studies and for that i am ready to go any part of the world.But want to avoid US and U.K

      1. In which country or countries (area) do you want to work directly after your Master in Management?
        Germany,France,Netherlands or Norway

      2. Why do you want to do a Master NOW? Are you not happy with you current job?
        I am interested to do Master now to get the advanced or high level of knowledge in management field .I am happy with my current job but want to excel in the field of management .

      Thanks and Regards

      • Posted by Thomas Graf on 12/27/11 3:08pm

        Hi again,

        let's proceed one by one:

        (1) Doing a Master in Management vs. alternatives
        I understand that you want to excel in the field of management and increase your knowledge. That’s great. However, keep in mind that you have at least two options for this.

        • First, start a Master in Management or Business in 2012.
        • Second, keep on working for some years and start an MBA – usually you need three years of professional experience when you start an MBA, which means that you apply for it after about 2 years of professional experience.

        Starting a Master in Management in 2012 has the advantage that you get new academic knowledge soon, which may intellectually satisfy you, dress up your CV, and eventually increase your career options later on. On the other side, you give up a decent job position where you feel comfortable at least for the moment and you are not sure about the career advantage of your Master later on.

        Usually, a Master in Management is for a career START and less for career DEVELOPMENT. People with no work experience - or people who only have little work experience and are not satisfied in their job should do a Master in Management (MIM) to increase their chances at the start of their career.

        The MBA in contrast is a nice option for people who worked – happily and successfully - for some years and THEN find out that they need more knowledge at their current position or want to increase their future career options inside or outside their employer.

        Bottom line: I would recommend you to invest one or two more thoughts on whether you really want to do an MIM or whether an MBA a bit later would be the better alternative.


        (2) Doing a Master in Management in Germany or France
        I am not sure about your records and your chances to get accepted for a Master. My gut feeling is that you would get accepted in most schools as long as you pay your tuition fees.

        If your undergraduate academic records are only mediocre (this is the impression that I receive from you feedback) you may get difficulties to get accepted in SOME schools who are more selective - and you may find it hard to get a merit-based scholarship.

        On the other side, you have a decent GMAT with 620 and you have some work experience which may be appreciated by the admission office because professional experience has the potential to enrich the class discussions.

        Bottom line: I cannot give you a clear estimation about your chances here but my gut feeling is that you will get accepted at most schools. Definitely you should try it everywhere that you like to – don’t hesitate or refuse to apply simply because you THINK you are not good enough.


        (3) How to get a clearer feedback
        I have very good contacts to German business schools. For example, at the MIM-COMPASS we offer a Personal Contact Button by which you can send a message directly to Mrs Julia Teuber from the WHU, to Mrs. Franziska Rook from HHL, to Mr. Dirk Laschke from the KLU, and to Mr. Daniel Kagel from EBS. Just send them a message – that you are interested in their MIM and that you would like to kindly ask if it would be possible to send your CV and receive a pre-feedback on your chances to get accepted. Feel free to mention me as a reference. If you are interested in other German schools, please let me know and I’ll be happy to assist you.

        As for the French schools, I also have some contacts, e.g. to HEC, ESSEC, IAE Aix-en-Provence Graduate School of Management, and others. Just let me know which ones are interesting for you.

        I hope I could be helpful for you.

        Best wishes
        Thomas

    • Posted by abhishek on 12/29/11 7:10pm

      hi sir,

      Thanks for your valuable reply.thanks a lot