Posted by aliLo on 12/22/14 9:25am
I will be applying to the MiM through the SAI selection process in February (spring session). I am only applying to schools in France, since it's where I would like to live/study.
I recently took the GRE and scored a 311 (155 Verbal, 156 Quant). I wish I had done better, but I'm not sure if retaking it would increase my score much since during my practice tests I scored in the mid-150s on average.
Do you know what the minimum GRE scores are for ESCP Europe an HEC? I have not received a reply from ESCP after contacting admissions; SKEMA Business School told me they consider candidates with 310 and above (so I should be okay?) I wonder if the other schools are similar, or more competitive.
Any input would be appreciated. I was debating on retaking the exam, but I think if I meet the average or minimums, I should be focusing on the rest of the application. I have a 3.87 GPA for my 2 undergrad degrees and 2 great letters of recommendation. I'll be working on fine-tuning good essays with review from friends and old professors. Luckily, writing is my strong suit (I was a communication and french major!)
Posted by Thomas Graf on 12/23/14 1:33am
as to my best knowledge, a GRE of 155 Verbal and 156 Quant represents a GMAT of around 560. This will certainly kick you out at HEC or ESCP.
A GMAT score of 600 is often considered as the inofficial minimum for internationally renowned schools. HEC and ESCP expect more, however, since they belong to the top schools regarding Masters in Management (MIM). From a private conversation with HEC I know that around 630 or 640 is considered as minimum - depending on the other applications, this can even be higher. ESCP probably expects similar results.
Hence, you need to re-do the GRE (or GMAT) if you target these schools - and probably also if you target many other schools that appear in good positions of international rankings.
One final comment of hope: I did the GMAT and got 590. Then I did it again and got 660. Good luck!
By Thomas GrafOwner MIM CompassAuthor of the MIM eBook
Posted by aliLo on 12/30/14 4:43am
Thank you Thomas,
Do you know if there are other important factors weighed into the application process for ESCP? I am not really targeting HEC but ESCP interests me the most.
If I re-take the GRE, I would need to do it by January 24 since I currently am signed up for the spring session and they would need my scores 3 weeks before the Feb. 16 deadline. So I can do it, I am just not certain I could score exactly 600+ in 4 weeks while also applying to the schools.
I have a lot of work experience and fluent in 3 languages. As I mentioned, the test score is the only part of my application I'm really not happy with. I am confident of my CV, letters of rec, GPA, etc. I guess I want to know whether the schools would dismiss someone based on solely a below the ideal score of if they would look at international experience, degrees, work experience, grades, etc.?
Posted by Thomas Graf on 12/30/14 9:55pm
the most important criterion at ESCP is your academic grade. This is what may get you in if you belong to the top of your class, ideally at a renowned school. The GMAT or GRE cannot get you in - it can only get you out. Hence, with a top grade (if you belong to the best 5% of your class, for instance) you have the highest chances to get accepted. A string GRE or GMAT will not compensate for a mediocre grade. I am talking about the HEC and ESCP now - there are other renowned schools that may be less strict with grades of course (IE Business School, for instance).
What irritates me is your comment on "have a lot of work experience". The Master in Managment is for graduates or people with some work experience only. If you have 2 years or more of work experience, the MBA is the right program. You probably will not get acepted fro the MIM.
Posted by aliLo on 12/31/14 8:09am
I meant to qualify with the work experience-- I graduated May 2013 with my Bachelors so I've been working a year and a half post-grad but have several internships from during college that I think help make a strong CV. It's all in marketing, which would likely be my specialization in whatever management program I got into.
I keep looking back to the comment of how the GRE will eliminate you from the top schools. So, I guess my last question with that score is: is it best to assume that my 311 score would just filter me out of ESCP before they even look at my GPA/school academics? I am curious if I would have a chance since I think the rest of my profile could prove worthy of consideration. B
I am looking into GRE re-take options in the meantime, as well as into other international masters programs in France.
Posted by Thomas Graf on 01/01/15 1:40pm
Yes, with a GRE of 311 (155 Verbal, 156 Quant) I think that ESCP would not consider your academic grade at all. You need to have a minimum score that reflects a GMAT of 600 - and it is likely that you need even a higher minimum GMAT score (or GRE equivalent), something around 630. This accounts for a Master in Management.
Why don't you ask them directly? Just call them...
Here is another idea: If you apply for a Master in Marketing (instead of a Master in Management with a specialization in Marketing), then the admissions criteria may be less strict - maybe they don't even ask for the GMAT or GRE. At least, I would check it out.
Posted by swathi on 09/17/19 12:04pm
hello.I scored 318 in GRE and I got placed in top 10 ranks of my department but I don't have any work experience and my undergrad course is ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING . Do you think will I get admitted in HEC or ESCP for MIM course if I apply?
Posted by thomas.graf on 09/17/19 3:00pm
in general, for a MIM you don't need work experience after graduation. But you can read all specific MIM admissions criteria for HEC and ESCP in the MIM Survey: Entry requirements for the Master in Management.
By Thomas GrafAuthor of the MIM eBook
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