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JOBS after MiM for Indians

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 6 May 2022 - 10:12am

    Hello,

    in my my eBook How you find the best Master in Management or MBA I give clear guidelines for this.

    The Master in Management (MIM) is for graduates or people with less work experience who want to kick-off their career. The Master of Business administration (MBA) is for experienced professionals with a minimum of 3 years (but 5-7 years on average) who want to bring their career to a new level.

    Since you belong to the first group, your question is not "MIM or MBA?" but rather "MIM or not?"

    And the answer depends on (1) your resources for a MIM (e.g., financial resources, scholarships, GMAT test scores, previous grades etc.) and (2) the "not" (in the question "MIM or not?"). If "not" means an unsatisfying job situation, for example, a MIM could increase your chances in improving your job options and there provide a decent option. If you find a good job and feel happy with it for the moment, why doing the MIM now?

    So far for your question. But here is an additional thought. You can do a MIM now and an MBA later - e.g. a Part-Time or Executive MBA in 10 years if you feel like doing it THEN (!). You could also wokr now and do an MBA if you feel happy in your current job situation. Or you can do a MIM now to increase your job options now.

    Best regards,
    Thomas

    Thomas Graf
    Author of the two MIM eBooks

  • Posted by - Avni - on 6 May 2022 - 8:49am

    Greetings!
    Sir/ma'am
    I want to pursue a degree in the US but I am confused between MIM and MBA degrees as I don't have any work experience I want to go to colleges offering degrees without or a minimum of 1 year of work experience but I have tempted to MIM degree also but the packages for a job after MIM degree is much lower than MBA degrees In India as well as Abroad. What should I choose?

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 1 October 2020 - 12:01pm

    Hello,

    sometimes the most obvious makes the most sense. I would simply contact some of your favorite schools in Canada - for instance, the Robert Ivey school - and ask them all your questions. In addition, you can ask them to bring you in contact with a non-Canadian student, ideally from your country.

    Be polite and let the admissions manager know that you are very interested in their Masters - and then politely pose your questions.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas Graf

    Founder of the MIM Compass
    Author of the MIM eBooks

  • Posted by - M.Vithya lakshmi - on 30 September 2020 - 2:38pm

    Hello,
    Im fascinating to do masters in management. I have completed my under graduation in Computer science and Masters in Home science. I want to do my dual masters in Canada because I can find job and settle there easily but most of the people are saying Canada University will not allow me to do dual masters degree.. If it's true how can I approach them..?

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 13 April 2020 - 8:51pm

    Hi there,

    the TU Munich has a high reputation worldwide. Your question, however, has to be answered more specifically. It needs to take into account your specific backround, career goals and the TU's program's opportunities and networks.

    In my eBook Business Masters I show you a method how to analyze programs along your own career goals.

    Founder of the MIM Compass
    Author of the MIM eBooks

  • Posted by - Anu - on 17 February 2020 - 6:27pm

    Hello,
    I recieved admission at TU Munich for the Masters in Management program. I have a Bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering and roughly 2 years of work experience. How effective would this course be for me considering my bachelor's background? And what are the possible internship/ student work opportunities?

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 17 September 2019 - 2:56pm

    Hi there,

    here is a tip: Try to find students of your nationality, who are currently studying in the respective countries. Those will be the best sources of information.

    I recommend you to contact business schools (e.g., the respective program or admissions managers), tell them that you are interested in their Masters degree and ask them kindly ot bring you in contact with a student of your nationality.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Arbaaz - on 15 September 2019 - 10:57pm

    Hello sir,
    I wanted to know if Canada, Switzerland, France, Europe have any complicated terms for a work permit visa after MiM, because as soon as my student visa expires I might need an insurance in some manner.

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 9 September 2019 - 1:06pm

    Hello,

    if you want to work in India after your MIM at a French Ecole, there are two approaches for answering your question.

    1. Ask your favorite employers in India.
    2. Ask the French schools how many of their MIM students with an Indian nationality found a job in India afterwards - and ask them to bring you in contact with them.

    In the eBook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA we provide a step-by-step procedure on finding out, which school and program best fits your criteria.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Shivani Khanna - on 7 September 2019 - 10:08am

    Hi sir,
    I am planning to pursue mim from grande ecole colleges in France, I have a good profile and plan on returning to my Country India after 1-2 job experience but many people, consultants have warned me against it as there is only a little consideration of this degree in India and less difficult to get a job . Please guide me on this.

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 4 May 2019 - 4:27pm

    Hello,

    in my eBook How you find the best Master in Management or MBA I provide you with the tools to analyze programs and assess the value of a specific program.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Shankhayan - on 3 May 2019 - 3:49pm

    Hi Sir

    I am planning to join a dual degree program from an elite b school in India which gives a MIM degree from ESCP and PGPIM degree from the native college. The fees and living expenses (Europe especially) are very high and I am a bit worried in this regard. Can you please enlighten me regarding the opportunities that this dual degree program will give. Thank You

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 26 February 2019 - 11:13am

    Hello,

    here are my comments.

    First, I recommend you to define "top". Do you mean schools that are ranked in the Financial Times Top ten Ranking, for example?

    Second, ask yourself: Why do you want to enter such a school? Maybe you will answer: Because I want to increase my career options. Fair enough but, what are your career goals?

    So, third: Ask yourself, what are your career goals (industry, employers, position) and are they realistic?

    Finally, search for schools that don't expect strong academic achievements. In my survey The MIM - Entry requirements for the Master in Management, for instance, you find the admissions criteria of 55 international schools - most of them internationally accredited.

    In this survey, you also see if a school expects primarily one criterion or if a school accepts and looks after many criteria such as GPA, internships, GMAT score etc. The latter schools may be the most interesting for you as they tend to allow students with a lower GPA to enter the program as well (by showing strong results on alternative admission dimensions).

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Elina - on 26 February 2019 - 8:04am

    Dear Sir,
    I completed my graduation last year and have 55% in UG. I want to do MIM from top B-schools. Can i get into top B-schools with such Undergraduate score?

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 14 February 2019 - 5:12pm

    Hello,

    first of all, the MIM is not an option for you as it is an education for graduates, who want to start a career. You have 2.5 years of post-graduation work experience and likely have more than 3 years when you start the Master - hence, your education (in general management) is the MBA. Please read my differences betewen MIM and MBA article.

    Second, now that you know that an MBA supports professionals in advancing their careers, you have to clarify two questions: (1) Is the MBA something you are interested in in terms of content? (2) Is the MBA something that may help you reach your career goals?

    The first question is easy to answer - just visit the schools' MBA pages and particularly the curriculum and program structure sections.

    The second question requires more work on your side as you need to collect data about what you plan to do after the MBA (e.g., which emloyers, which positions) and if an MBA can help you here (e.g., do your target employers acknowledge an MBA, at which schools do they recruit? etc.).

    In my eBook How you find the best Master in Management and MBA I give you a lot of tips - so please, read it carefully in an afternoon or two and follow my advices.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Priyanka - on 13 February 2019 - 3:14pm

    Hi Sir,

    I have done engineering in electronics and telecommunication and currently working in an reputed MNC as a Sr Analyst. I have gained 2.5 yrs of experience .I want to shift my career to Management by pursuing MIM. I am confused because my background is different. What will be the job opportunities after MIM in Ireland. Will it be a good choice to do MIM. Please help me with my doubts.

    Thank you!

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 21 November 2018 - 3:48pm

    Hi,

    if you read my eBook Business Masters, you will understand my approach: Which program you choose - e.g., which content focus, exert vs. general - depends on your career goals directly after your studies.

    Also included in thsis eBook is the general overview of options: On one hand, you can decide for a specialized MSc in Fiannce to become a finance expert (this is what you don't want) - on the other hand, you can choose a rather general mangement education vis the Master in Management or Business. In between, you have the option to choose a Master in Management first and within the program choose electoves around finance. This will provide you with a general management approach and allow you to specialize to some extent at least in an area of your interest.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Tanu Iyer - on 21 November 2018 - 2:35pm

    Dear Sir,

    I'm currently pursuing CA in India. (just 4 papers left to clear). I'm good at my subjects and have a logical mind. However, I'm not interested in further gaining a degree in Finance. Can a CA coupled with Masters in International Management from a good B School open any good job opportunities for me?Will MIM become too generic a course for me?
    Also, a lot of MIM graduates opt for consultancy services .Could you elaborate on that?

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 16 November 2018 - 12:38pm

    Hi there,

    I understand that your career options are important for you regarding a Master's degree. But asking "is Australia a good option" is a to broad question. It depends on many things.

    I recommend narrowing down the question to:

    • What do you want to work after your studies?
    • In which industry?
    • Maybe even: at choch employers?

    And then investigate how a specific degree at a specific school could help you achieve your goals.

    Theer are several ways to find out the career options that a specific school and program can provide you with and I suggest them in my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA".

    To give you an appetizer: Why not contacting the school of your interest and asking them about students from your country and their careers after the Master's degree?

    Best regards,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Owner MIM Compass
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Vidhi - on 16 November 2018 - 10:27am

    Hello Sir,
    I am Vidhi from India. I am in my last year of Bachelors Degree and plan to apply to Australia for the 2019 intake. I am aiming at the MIM (Human Resource) course. I wanted to know if Australia is a good option? And also about the employment opportunities after and during my course. I am confused whether it is worth the investment since Australia is an expensive country to live in. Will it provide me with any best returns?
    My main aim is a good pay scale+ a good lifestyle and whether or not can I settle in the country?

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 8 October 2018 - 1:02pm

    Hello,

    as for your first question: No one can clearly say in advance how admission officers will interpret your records. Some may prefer candidates with a clearer job profile - others may understand your job decisions as an expression of high motivation to gain knowledge and see this positively.

    In general, with 2 years of work experience you may want to consider an MBA instead of a MIM. Don't say "I prefer the MIM because it is the cheaper option" as it is not an alternative for the MBA as you may understand if you read our MBA-MIM article.

    About question 2, please read my MIM survey.

    Best regards,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Owner MIM Compass
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Alekhya Duddukuru - on 8 October 2018 - 9:16am

    Hi Sir,
    I have worked for 20 months in IT after completing my B.Tech but I quitted the job as I was not gaining knowledge and I was helping father in his business from 1 year.I want to go for MIM programme as I'm interested in Management studies.So

    1. I wanted to know will this 1 year gap of unemployment will reflect my profile during selection process of universities??
    2. How are job opportunities for MIM graduates and what is opt period for MIM graduates??

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 7 August 2018 - 9:04am

    Hi there,

    in my eBook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA I describe a method how you can find such information. E.g., how can you find out about career options in a specific country for students with a specific backround?

    Best regards,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Owner MIM Compass
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Vishal - on 6 August 2018 - 9:39pm

    Hi sir,
    I want to know about job market for MIM graduates in Australia for Indian students.

  • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 23 July 2018 - 12:17pm

    Hi there,

    thank you for your email. Everyone wants to have a "job security" for the MIM, right? And everyone is expecting a "good rate of return", correct? So, this is what you have in common with all the other thousands of MIM applicants and MIM students in this world.

    The bad news is: There is no guarantee upfront.

    The good news is: You can do a lot (before you enrol in a program) to increase the likelihood that the respective program helps you achieve your career goals. I developed a strategy for this that includes some basic steps:

    1. Reflect your goals (e.g., career goals and experience goals)
    2. Reflect your resources (e.g., GMAT and financial resources)
    3. Based on (1) and (2) create a target profile of your ideal program.
    4. Screen business schools and programs to find those that come close to your ideal program.
    5. Use application tactics such as making two buckets: One with programs that are your "dream" programs but that are too expensive for you; and one with programs that are not perfect but that come close to your ideal program and that are affordable or you - and apply for both.

    You can read this strategy in detail and learn how you apply it in my eBook Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA.

    Best regards,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Owner MIM Compass
    Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - Raunak - on 21 July 2018 - 7:51pm

    Hello Sir,
    This is Raunak from India. And I am pursuing my second year bachelor's degree in Commerce studies right now. I am planning to do my Masters in Management(MiM) from a good B-School in Europe. But the only problem is that do we have the job security or placement programs. Because I will be expecting a good rate of return on my investment as the fees are comparatively higher. And which all schools accept more of Indian Students?

    Thank you,
    Raunak

  • Posted by - Swarnesh Rao - on 30 May 2018 - 10:29pm

    Hi sir I had commented on mim
    Now I am about to start with supply chain management course@ France in one of the reputed school.

    Hope supply chain management has a good future.

    Wish me luck and comment about th career opportunities in your own words sir.

    Thanks,
    Swarnesh

  • Posted by - Shashank kalra - on 8 April 2018 - 4:01pm

    Hi I am planning to do Mim from SMU Singapore can you tell me what is the value of this degree and job opportunities in Singapore for Indian students. Also should I go for July intake or January intake?

  • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 9 October 2017 - 12:16pm

    Hi there,

    regarding your career step, a Master in Management (MIM) is the right program type, provided that you are interested in a general management course. If you prefer to specialize in a specific business area - such as marketing or supply chain management - you would recommend a Master in the respective area (e.g., a MSc in Marketing).

    Regarding your decision in favor of more education, I always recommend to weigh your current job opportunities against the decision to invest in education. If you have a satisfying job or the chance to get a satisfying job at the moment, you could stick with that - and maybe add an MBA at a later stage of your life (whether full-time or part-time).

    If you are not satisfied with your current job situation or have other reasons (e.g., gain inzternational experience etc.), I recommend a Master's.

    Now, the question of ROI and job opportunities obviously is very important. For many people, it may even be THE most important criterion for selecting a specific school. Hence, preparing your decision thoroughly by investigating in numbers before, is important.

    The problem is: You will have to invest an effort toget reliable answers. If you are not willing to make this effort, you won't. If you make the following steps, for instance, you will have a much clearer picture and make a better decision.

    (1) Read my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management & MBA" THOROUGHLY.
    (2) Read my Global MIM Survey 2014 THOROUGHLY.
    (3) Based on your readings, make a firsdt selection of 5-10 schools that appear to be interesting for you.
    (4) Visit the websites of these schools and carefully read the career pages of the respective Master in Management - e.g., watch out for info on career statistics such as employers, average time until graduates receive a job offer, percentage of graduates who accepted a job offer within 3 months etc. If the employers are not interesting for you, maybe this is the wrong program for you. If only few people get jobs, maybe the wrong problem for you...
    (5) Screen the website for MIM student statistics: How many students from India have been enrolled in the past? If the school has no experience with placing students from your country at employers... it may be the wrong school for you.
    (6) Contact the school and ask them to bring you in contact with (a) current MIM students and (b)alumni, ideally from your region.
    (7) Contact these students or alumni via email or Skype and ask your questions... What is or was your experience? How easy do you think you will find a job? Ho easy was it to find a job? What are you doing now?
    (8) Contact some of your favorite employers and ask the where they recruit. If they don't answer you on the phone, be creative... for instance, attend job fairs where these employers attend and ask them there...

    You see: There is no free lunch and no one will easily give you the answers you are looking for - at least not, if the person you ask is serious. But if you make an effort, you will profit from it in the mid-run.

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

    By Thomas Graf
    Founder MIM Compass

  • Posted by - swarnesh rao - on 7 October 2017 - 9:54pm

    Dear sir,

    I am planning to do master in management degree in France,Germany or Ireland this worth investment for Indian as i am interested in management field and i am not interested doing it in India . Can you explain me in brief about the roi and job opportunities in these 3 countries for a fresh management graduate if you get a decent college.

    I am an average student particularly interested in management courses.

    My background:i have done my engineering in computer s and have work experience about 8 months in IT.so i am really confused about my career decision

    • Posted by - gaurav - on 15 April 2018 - 9:26am

      Dear Swarnesh Ji Rao
      My name is Gaurav from Kolkata. My thoughts are also as like as you. I also want to establish my career in management and specifically from outside INDIA( Europe, Canada,) etc. The advice of Thomas sir is best in the WORLD. Do and follow the steps what Thomas Graf Sir has been saying. I had followed that steps thoroughly and after doing too much analysis for one year I came to conclusion. I got admission in a business school in France for my master in management course. I like this business school because of its course structure and reputation. Now, Waiting for the visa.
      Moreover, millions of thanks from the heart to Thomas Graf sir. I was confused. You and this website gave me the direction to approach ahead for better career and future.
      Now, it is my dream that I will meet you one day and i will try my best for that.
      Mr. swarnesh ji Rao, If you want to get in touch with me my email id- gauravsharma2981993@gmail.com. Best of luck

      Thank you Thomas sir

      • Posted by - Karan Pardeshi - on 7 August 2018 - 8:11am

        Hi sir,
        I am Karan from India. I have just completed my Bachelor's degree in computer science with 67% from PUNE UNIVERSITY. I wish to apply for MIM course and persuade my career in that . I am confused since I am having Engineering degree and i wish to switch for Management degree. For Masters degree I have to invest lots of money and I don't know whether it's gonna be good decision to make for MIM. I wish you to help me with my doubt.

        Thanks and regards.

      • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 16 April 2018 - 12:05pm

        Dear Gaurav,

        thank you so much for your kind words. I am happy that you were successful in finding the right business school for you.

        All the best
        Thomas

        By Thomas Graf
        Owner MIM Compass
        Author of the MIM eBook

        • Posted by - Prakash - on 10 November 2018 - 5:55pm

          Hello,
          This is Prakash, doing my masters in management in ESLSCA Business School,Paris,FRANCE.I just want to know the opportunities of getting job in India after my course get completed.Is that possible. Will a PG Degree from France is worth enough to get a job in India .

          • Posted by - Sachin soni - on 29 November 2018 - 4:50am

            Hello,
            I am Sachin soni, I am planning to persue MIM. I have some big doubts regarding this decision. I will be so glad if you help me in solving the doubts. Kindly share your email or social account.
            Email:- sonisahedeva@gmail.com

            • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 29 November 2018 - 12:29pm

              Hi there,

              it is a big pleasure for me to help you solve your doubts. Please read my eBook Business Masters very carefully. It will provide you (1) with a profound overview on the landscape of Masters in Management, MBA programs and specialized busines masters. (2) it will give you guidelines on how to find "YOUR" best program and (3) finally how you find the best school.

              Best wishes,
              Thomas

              By Thomas Graf
              Author of the MIM eBook

          • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 13 November 2018 - 10:00am

            Hi there,

            I see two approaches to this question. First, you can try to find out about other students or ex-students (alumni) of your university, who come from India - and ask them about their experience. Second, you can contact your target employers in India (directly or indirectly) and ask them if they recognize your degree, what entry options you would have etc.

            Best regards,
            Thomas

            By Thomas Graf
            Owner MIM Compass
            Author of the MIM eBook

            • Posted by - Sagar Shah - on 24 November 2018 - 9:09am

              Hello Thomas Sir,
              I just wanted to ask you about your second book I wanted to buy it but its not available I need because of entry requirements I bought the first book but also need second one When it will be available can you let me know about it

              • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 26 November 2018 - 10:25am

                Hi,

                if you go to http://www.mim-compass.com/ebooks and and scroll down to the eBook of your interest: Just click on "mobi at amazon", it will re-direct you to amazon where you can purchase the eBook.

                Best wishes,
                Thomas

                By Thomas Graf
                Author of the MIM eBook

        • Posted by - Saksham - on 5 November 2018 - 4:52pm

          Hi sir ,
          My name is saksham from Gujarat . I am interested in management field , i have decided to do mim but actually i am very confused between (Australia , canada , France or Germany ) , i want a good pay scale + a good recognised degree apart from that i want to get settled in the same country .
          I am basically an average student with a 70% score in UG bba program.
          I would be highly obliged if could help me in this situation sir .

          • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 6 November 2018 - 4:19pm

            Hello,

            in general, I recommend you to read my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA" carefully. This will deepen your knowledge and on masters a lot and provide you with useful tools on how to select schools strategically.

            Regarding your question, I always recommend to go beyond saying "I want top have a good "job". Instead, I recommend specifying

            (1) what kind of job you want? - e.g., do you want to be a finance expert or do you want to be a consultant?
            (2) which industry? - it doesn't make sense to apply at schools if no company from your target industry recruits there
            (3) which potential employers? - it doesn't make sense to apply at schools if none of your target employers recruits there
            (4) your interest? - doesn't make sense to enroll in a finance program if finnace bores you.

            THIS ANALYSIS should be the starting point for your decision in favor or against a specific program type and school eventually.

            A key question, for example, will be: Do you want a general management education (MIM or MBA) or do you want to acquire competence as an expert in a specific business field (MSc in Finance etc.)?

            As for your question regarding the country, one approach is to select a school in the country where you want to work after your studies. If you plan to work in Canada, for instance, choose a school in Canada (or North America) with a network to your target employers. Now think again of my lead questions above - do you know your target employers already...?

            Now, again: Read my eBook - and then feel free to come back with questions.

            Best regards,
            Thomas

            By Thomas Graf
            Owner MIM Compass
            Author of the MIM eBook

  • Posted by - aishanimishra - on 1 February 2013 - 6:09pm

    I've applied for the MIM program in several schools in UK and FRANCE.But,people have been warning me against this recently saying job opportunities are slim for Indian citizens and sometimes not legal even!
    If I would attend a University in Europe ,I wish to get a job there and continue working there.Please tell me what the job market is like for Indians because many forums have mentioned getting a work permit is impossible.

    aishani

    • Posted by - Presenteeism - on 6 January 2019 - 11:36pm

      i have done my MIM program and want top have job opportunities in my area. specially for the Indian citizens

      • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 8 January 2019 - 11:31am

        Hi there,

        this is understandable. So, what have you done to reach your goal so far? For instance, have you discussed your career goals with the career office of your school? Have you assessed the employers that come to your school's campus? etc.

        Best regards,
        Thomas

        Best wishes,
        Thomas

        By Thomas Graf
        Author of the MIM eBook

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 1 February 2013 - 6:21pm

      Hi Aishani,

      well, there may be differences depending which European country. I think the best way you can find this out is by talking to:

      (1) The Embassy of India in the respective countries: They should know visa situation as well as the job market.

      (2) The business schools of your interest: and particularly the career service team. Ask them about their experiences with people from India in placing them after graduation. If they have no experience at all or if they couldn't place them it may not be a good sign.

      (3) Ask the admissions team to bring you in contact with an Alumni from India. He or she should provide you with a sense of how easy it is.

      One more thought: You could try to approach MIM programs with severa campuses or partner universities such as the CEMS MIM or the Hult MIB. By this, you are not depending on one country only.

      Best wishes
      Thomas