Posted by aishanimishra on 02/01/13 6:09pm
I've applied for the MIM program in several schools in UK and FRANCE.But,people have been warning me against this recently saying job opportunities are slim for Indian citizens and sometimes not legal even!If I would attend a University in Europe ,I wish to get a job there and continue working there.Please tell me what the job market is like for Indians because many forums have mentioned getting a work permit is impossible.
Posted by Thomas Graf on 02/01/13 6:21pm
well, there may be differences depending which European country. I think the best way you can find this out is by talking to:
(1) The Embassy of India in the respective countries: They should know visa situation as well as the job market.
(2) The business schools of your interest: and particularly the career service team. Ask them about their experiences with people from India in placing them after graduation. If they have no experience at all or if they couldn't place them it may not be a good sign.
(3) Ask the admissions team to bring you in contact with an Alumni from India. He or she should provide you with a sense of how easy it is.
One more thought: You could try to approach MIM programs with severa campuses or partner universities such as the CEMS MIM or the Hult MIB. By this, you are not depending on one country only.
Posted by Presenteeism on 01/06/19 11:36pm
i have done my MIM program and want top have job opportunities in my area. specially for the Indian citizens
Posted by thomas.graf on 01/08/19 11:31am
this is understandable. So, what have you done to reach your goal so far? For instance, have you discussed your career goals with the career office of your school? Have you assessed the employers that come to your school's campus? etc.
By Thomas GrafAuthor of the MIM eBook
Posted by swarnesh rao on 10/07/17 9:54pm
I am planning to do master in management degree in France,Germany or Ireland this worth investment for Indian as i am interested in management field and i am not interested doing it in India . Can you explain me in brief about the roi and job opportunities in these 3 countries for a fresh management graduate if you get a decent college.
I am an average student particularly interested in management courses.
My background:i have done my engineering in computer s and have work experience about 8 months in IT.so i am really confused about my career decision
Posted by gaurav on 04/15/18 9:26am
Dear Swarnesh Ji RaoMy name is Gaurav from Kolkata. My thoughts are also as like as you. I also want to establish my career in management and specifically from outside INDIA( Europe, Canada,) etc. The advice of Thomas sir is best in the WORLD. Do and follow the steps what Thomas Graf Sir has been saying. I had followed that steps thoroughly and after doing too much analysis for one year I came to conclusion. I got admission in a business school in France for my master in management course. I like this business school because of its course structure and reputation. Now, Waiting for the visa.Moreover, millions of thanks from the heart to Thomas Graf sir. I was confused. You and this website gave me the direction to approach ahead for better career and future.Now, it is my dream that I will meet you one day and i will try my best for that.Mr. swarnesh ji Rao, If you want to get in touch with me my email id- email@example.com. Best of luck
Thank you Thomas sir
Posted by thomas.graf on 04/16/18 12:05pm
thank you so much for your kind words. I am happy that you were successful in finding the right business school for you.
All the bestThomas
By Thomas GrafOwner MIM CompassAuthor of the MIM eBook
Posted by Saksham on 11/05/18 4:52pm
Hi sir ,My name is saksham from Gujarat . I am interested in management field , i have decided to do mim but actually i am very confused between (Australia , canada , France or Germany ) , i want a good pay scale + a good recognised degree apart from that i want to get settled in the same country .I am basically an average student with a 70% score in UG bba program.I would be highly obliged if could help me in this situation sir .
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/06/18 4:19pm
in general, I recommend you to read my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA" carefully. This will deepen your knowledge and on masters a lot and provide you with useful tools on how to select schools strategically.
Regarding your question, I always recommend to go beyond saying "I want top have a good "job". Instead, I recommend specifying
(1) what kind of job you want? - e.g., do you want to be a finance expert or do you want to be a consultant?(2) which industry? - it doesn't make sense to apply at schools if no company from your target industry recruits there(3) which potential employers? - it doesn't make sense to apply at schools if none of your target employers recruits there(4) your interest? - doesn't make sense to enroll in a finance program if finnace bores you.
THIS ANALYSIS should be the starting point for your decision in favor or against a specific program type and school eventually.
A key question, for example, will be: Do you want a general management education (MIM or MBA) or do you want to acquire competence as an expert in a specific business field (MSc in Finance etc.)?
As for your question regarding the country, one approach is to select a school in the country where you want to work after your studies. If you plan to work in Canada, for instance, choose a school in Canada (or North America) with a network to your target employers. Now think again of my lead questions above - do you know your target employers already...?
Now, again: Read my eBook - and then feel free to come back with questions.
Posted by Prakash on 11/10/18 5:55pm
Hello,This is Prakash, doing my masters in management in ESLSCA Business School,Paris,FRANCE.I just want to know the opportunities of getting job in India after my course get completed.Is that possible. Will a PG Degree from France is worth enough to get a job in India .
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/13/18 10:00am
I see two approaches to this question. First, you can try to find out about other students or ex-students (alumni) of your university, who come from India - and ask them about their experience. Second, you can contact your target employers in India (directly or indirectly) and ask them if they recognize your degree, what entry options you would have etc.
Posted by Sagar Shah on 11/24/18 9:09am
Hello Thomas Sir,I just wanted to ask you about your second book I wanted to buy it but its not available I need because of entry requirements I bought the first book but also need second one When it will be available can you let me know about it
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/26/18 10:25am
if you go to http://www.mim-compass.com/ebooks and and scroll down to the eBook of your interest: Just click on "mobi at amazon", it will re-direct you to amazon where you can purchase the eBook.
Posted by Sachin soni on 11/29/18 4:50am
Hello,I am Sachin soni, I am planning to persue MIM. I have some big doubts regarding this decision. I will be so glad if you help me in solving the doubts. Kindly share your email or social account.Email:- firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/29/18 12:29pm
it is a big pleasure for me to help you solve your doubts. Please read my eBook Business Masters very carefully. It will provide you (1) with a profound overview on the landscape of Masters in Management, MBA programs and specialized busines masters. (2) it will give you guidelines on how to find "YOUR" best program and (3) finally how you find the best school.
Posted by Karan Pardeshi on 08/07/18 8:11am
Hi sir,I am Karan from India. I have just completed my Bachelor's degree in computer science with 67% from PUNE UNIVERSITY. I wish to apply for MIM course and persuade my career in that . I am confused since I am having Engineering degree and i wish to switch for Management degree. For Masters degree I have to invest lots of money and I don't know whether it's gonna be good decision to make for MIM. I wish you to help me with my doubt.
Thanks and regards.
Posted by Shashank kalra on 04/08/18 4:01pm
Hi I am planning to do Mim from SMU Singapore can you tell me what is the value of this degree and job opportunities in Singapore for Indian students. Also should I go for July intake or January intake?
Posted by thomas.graf on 04/09/18 9:54am
if you want to find out about the value of a specific program, you need to read the ANALYSIS part of my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA".
Posted by Thomas Graf on 10/09/17 12:16pm
regarding your career step, a Master in Management (MIM) is the right program type, provided that you are interested in a general management course. If you prefer to specialize in a specific business area - such as marketing or supply chain management - you would recommend a Master in the respective area (e.g., a MSc in Marketing).
Regarding your decision in favor of more education, I always recommend to weigh your current job opportunities against the decision to invest in education. If you have a satisfying job or the chance to get a satisfying job at the moment, you could stick with that - and maybe add an MBA at a later stage of your life (whether full-time or part-time).
If you are not satisfied with your current job situation or have other reasons (e.g., gain inzternational experience etc.), I recommend a Master's.
Now, the question of ROI and job opportunities obviously is very important. For many people, it may even be THE most important criterion for selecting a specific school. Hence, preparing your decision thoroughly by investigating in numbers before, is important.
The problem is: You will have to invest an effort toget reliable answers. If you are not willing to make this effort, you won't. If you make the following steps, for instance, you will have a much clearer picture and make a better decision.
(1) Read my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management & MBA" THOROUGHLY.(2) Read my Global MIM Survey 2014 THOROUGHLY.(3) Based on your readings, make a firsdt selection of 5-10 schools that appear to be interesting for you.(4) Visit the websites of these schools and carefully read the career pages of the respective Master in Management - e.g., watch out for info on career statistics such as employers, average time until graduates receive a job offer, percentage of graduates who accepted a job offer within 3 months etc. If the employers are not interesting for you, maybe this is the wrong program for you. If only few people get jobs, maybe the wrong problem for you...(5) Screen the website for MIM student statistics: How many students from India have been enrolled in the past? If the school has no experience with placing students from your country at employers... it may be the wrong school for you.(6) Contact the school and ask them to bring you in contact with (a) current MIM students and (b)alumni, ideally from your region.(7) Contact these students or alumni via email or Skype and ask your questions... What is or was your experience? How easy do you think you will find a job? Ho easy was it to find a job? What are you doing now?(8) Contact some of your favorite employers and ask the where they recruit. If they don't answer you on the phone, be creative... for instance, attend job fairs where these employers attend and ask them there...
You see: There is no free lunch and no one will easily give you the answers you are looking for - at least not, if the person you ask is serious. But if you make an effort, you will profit from it in the mid-run.
By Thomas GrafFounder MIM Compass
Posted by Swarnesh Rao on 05/30/18 10:29pm
Hi sir I had commented on mimNow I am about to start with supply chain management course@ France in one of the reputed school.
Hope supply chain management has a good future.
Wish me luck and comment about th career opportunities in your own words sir.
Posted by Raunak on 07/21/18 7:51pm
Hello Sir,This is Raunak from India. And I am pursuing my second year bachelor's degree in Commerce studies right now. I am planning to do my Masters in Management(MiM) from a good B-School in Europe. But the only problem is that do we have the job security or placement programs. Because I will be expecting a good rate of return on my investment as the fees are comparatively higher. And which all schools accept more of Indian Students?
Posted by thomas.graf on 07/23/18 12:17pm
thank you for your email. Everyone wants to have a "job security" for the MIM, right? And everyone is expecting a "good rate of return", correct? So, this is what you have in common with all the other thousands of MIM applicants and MIM students in this world.
The bad news is: There is no guarantee upfront.
The good news is: You can do a lot (before you enrol in a program) to increase the likelihood that the respective program helps you achieve your career goals. I developed a strategy for this that includes some basic steps:
You can read this strategy in detail and learn how you apply it in my eBook Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA.
Posted by Vishal on 08/06/18 9:39pm
Hi sir,I want to know about job market for MIM graduates in Australia for Indian students.
Posted by thomas.graf on 08/07/18 9:04am
in my eBook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA I describe a method how you can find such information. E.g., how can you find out about career options in a specific country for students with a specific backround?
Posted by Alekhya Duddukuru on 10/08/18 9:16am
Hi Sir,I have worked for 20 months in IT after completing my B.Tech but I quitted the job as I was not gaining knowledge and I was helping father in his business from 1 year.I want to go for MIM programme as I'm interested in Management studies.So
Posted by thomas.graf on 10/08/18 1:02pm
as for your first question: No one can clearly say in advance how admission officers will interpret your records. Some may prefer candidates with a clearer job profile - others may understand your job decisions as an expression of high motivation to gain knowledge and see this positively.
In general, with 2 years of work experience you may want to consider an MBA instead of a MIM. Don't say "I prefer the MIM because it is the cheaper option" as it is not an alternative for the MBA as you may understand if you read our MBA-MIM article.
About question 2, please read my MIM survey.
Posted by Vidhi on 11/16/18 10:27am
Hello Sir,I am Vidhi from India. I am in my last year of Bachelors Degree and plan to apply to Australia for the 2019 intake. I am aiming at the MIM (Human Resource) course. I wanted to know if Australia is a good option? And also about the employment opportunities after and during my course. I am confused whether it is worth the investment since Australia is an expensive country to live in. Will it provide me with any best returns?My main aim is a good pay scale+ a good lifestyle and whether or not can I settle in the country?
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/16/18 12:38pm
I understand that your career options are important for you regarding a Master's degree. But asking "is Australia a good option" is a to broad question. It depends on many things.
I recommend narrowing down the question to:
And then investigate how a specific degree at a specific school could help you achieve your goals.
Theer are several ways to find out the career options that a specific school and program can provide you with and I suggest them in my eBook "Business Masters: How you find the best Master in Management or MBA".
To give you an appetizer: Why not contacting the school of your interest and asking them about students from your country and their careers after the Master's degree?
Posted by Tanu Iyer on 11/21/18 2:35pm
I'm currently pursuing CA in India. (just 4 papers left to clear). I'm good at my subjects and have a logical mind. However, I'm not interested in further gaining a degree in Finance. Can a CA coupled with Masters in International Management from a good B School open any good job opportunities for me?Will MIM become too generic a course for me?Also, a lot of MIM graduates opt for consultancy services .Could you elaborate on that?
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/21/18 3:48pm
if you read my eBook Business Masters, you will understand my approach: Which program you choose - e.g., which content focus, exert vs. general - depends on your career goals directly after your studies.
Also included in thsis eBook is the general overview of options: On one hand, you can decide for a specialized MSc in Fiannce to become a finance expert (this is what you don't want) - on the other hand, you can choose a rather general mangement education vis the Master in Management or Business. In between, you have the option to choose a Master in Management first and within the program choose electoves around finance. This will provide you with a general management approach and allow you to specialize to some extent at least in an area of your interest.
Posted by Priyanka on 02/13/19 3:14pm
I have done engineering in electronics and telecommunication and currently working in an reputed MNC as a Sr Analyst. I have gained 2.5 yrs of experience .I want to shift my career to Management by pursuing MIM. I am confused because my background is different. What will be the job opportunities after MIM in Ireland. Will it be a good choice to do MIM. Please help me with my doubts.
Posted by thomas.graf on 02/14/19 5:12pm
first of all, the MIM is not an option for you as it is an education for graduates, who want to start a career. You have 2.5 years of post-graduation work experience and likely have more than 3 years when you start the Master - hence, your education (in general management) is the MBA. Please read my differences betewen MIM and MBA article.
Second, now that you know that an MBA supports professionals in advancing their careers, you have to clarify two questions: (1) Is the MBA something you are interested in in terms of content? (2) Is the MBA something that may help you reach your career goals?
The first question is easy to answer - just visit the schools' MBA pages and particularly the curriculum and program structure sections.
The second question requires more work on your side as you need to collect data about what you plan to do after the MBA (e.g., which emloyers, which positions) and if an MBA can help you here (e.g., do your target employers acknowledge an MBA, at which schools do they recruit? etc.).
In my eBook How you find the best Master in Management and MBA I give you a lot of tips - so please, read it carefully in an afternoon or two and follow my advices.
Posted by Elina on 02/26/19 8:04am
Dear Sir,I completed my graduation last year and have 55% in UG. I want to do MIM from top B-schools. Can i get into top B-schools with such Undergraduate score?
Posted by thomas.graf on 02/26/19 11:13am
here are my comments.
First, I recommend you to define "top". Do you mean schools that are ranked in the Financial Times Top ten Ranking, for example?
Second, ask yourself: Why do you want to enter such a school? Maybe you will answer: Because I want to increase my career options. Fair enough but, what are your career goals?
So, third: Ask yourself, what are your career goals (industry, employers, position) and are they realistic?
Finally, search for schools that don't expect strong academic achievements. In my survey The MIM - Entry requirements for the Master in Management, for instance, you find the admissions criteria of 55 international schools - most of them internationally accredited.
In this survey, you also see if a school expects primarily one criterion or if a school accepts and looks after many criteria such as GPA, internships, GMAT score etc. The latter schools may be the most interesting for you as they tend to allow students with a lower GPA to enter the program as well (by showing strong results on alternative admission dimensions).
Posted by Shankhayan on 05/03/19 3:49pm
I am planning to join a dual degree program from an elite b school in India which gives a MIM degree from ESCP and PGPIM degree from the native college. The fees and living expenses (Europe especially) are very high and I am a bit worried in this regard. Can you please enlighten me regarding the opportunities that this dual degree program will give. Thank You
Posted by thomas.graf on 05/04/19 4:27pm
in my eBook How you find the best Master in Management or MBA I provide you with the tools to analyze programs and assess the value of a specific program.
Posted by Shivani Khanna on 09/07/19 10:08am
Hi sir,I am planning to pursue mim from grande ecole colleges in France, I have a good profile and plan on returning to my Country India after 1-2 job experience but many people, consultants have warned me against it as there is only a little consideration of this degree in India and less difficult to get a job . Please guide me on this.
Posted by thomas.graf on 09/09/19 1:06pm
if you want to work in India after your MIM at a French Ecole, there are two approaches for answering your question.
In the eBook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA we provide a step-by-step procedure on finding out, which school and program best fits your criteria.
Posted by Arbaaz on 09/15/19 10:57pm
Hello sir,I wanted to know if Canada, Switzerland, France, Europe have any complicated terms for a work permit visa after MiM, because as soon as my student visa expires I might need an insurance in some manner.
Posted by thomas.graf on 09/17/19 2:56pm
here is a tip: Try to find students of your nationality, who are currently studying in the respective countries. Those will be the best sources of information.
I recommend you to contact business schools (e.g., the respective program or admissions managers), tell them that you are interested in their Masters degree and ask them kindly ot bring you in contact with a student of your nationality.
Posted by Anu on 02/17/20 6:27pm
Hello,I recieved admission at TU Munich for the Masters in Management program. I have a Bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering and roughly 2 years of work experience. How effective would this course be for me considering my bachelor's background? And what are the possible internship/ student work opportunities?
Posted by M.Vithya lakshmi on 09/30/20 2:38pm
Hello,Im fascinating to do masters in management. I have completed my under graduation in Computer science and Masters in Home science. I want to do my dual masters in Canada because I can find job and settle there easily but most of the people are saying Canada University will not allow me to do dual masters degree.. If it's true how can I approach them..?
Posted by thomas.graf on 04/13/20 8:51pm
the TU Munich has a high reputation worldwide. Your question, however, has to be answered more specifically. It needs to take into account your specific backround, career goals and the TU's program's opportunities and networks.
In my eBook Business Masters I show you a method how to analyze programs along your own career goals.
Founder of the MIM CompassAuthor of the MIM eBooks
Posted by thomas.graf on 10/01/20 12:01pm
sometimes the most obvious makes the most sense. I would simply contact some of your favorite schools in Canada - for instance, the Robert Ivey school - and ask them all your questions. In addition, you can ask them to bring you in contact with a non-Canadian student, ideally from your country.
Be polite and let the admissions manager know that you are very interested in their Masters - and then politely pose your questions.
Best wishes,Thomas Graf
Posted by Avni on 05/06/22 8:49am
Greetings!Sir/ma'amI want to pursue a degree in the US but I am confused between MIM and MBA degrees as I don't have any work experience I want to go to colleges offering degrees without or a minimum of 1 year of work experience but I have tempted to MIM degree also but the packages for a job after MIM degree is much lower than MBA degrees In India as well as Abroad. What should I choose?
Posted by thomas.graf on 05/06/22 10:12am
in my my eBook How you find the best Master in Management or MBA I give clear guidelines for this.
The Master in Management (MIM) is for graduates or people with less work experience who want to kick-off their career. The Master of Business administration (MBA) is for experienced professionals with a minimum of 3 years (but 5-7 years on average) who want to bring their career to a new level.
Since you belong to the first group, your question is not "MIM or MBA?" but rather "MIM or not?"
And the answer depends on (1) your resources for a MIM (e.g., financial resources, scholarships, GMAT test scores, previous grades etc.) and (2) the "not" (in the question "MIM or not?"). If "not" means an unsatisfying job situation, for example, a MIM could increase your chances in improving your job options and there provide a decent option. If you find a good job and feel happy with it for the moment, why doing the MIM now?
So far for your question. But here is an additional thought. You can do a MIM now and an MBA later - e.g. a Part-Time or Executive MBA in 10 years if you feel like doing it THEN (!). You could also wokr now and do an MBA if you feel happy in your current job situation. Or you can do a MIM now to increase your job options now.
Thomas GrafAuthor of the two MIM eBooks
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