Forum: Application & Admission (18 Comments)

profile evaluation

  • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 23 October 2013 - 5:06pm

    I have applied for SAI autumn season. My profile is:
    GMAT: 730
    Graduation cgpa: 8.96/10
    mechanical engineering
    Institution: Jadavpur University
    achievement: gold medal from National Council of education
    class 12: 94%
    class 10: 92%
    Achievement: Laureate certificate from C.B.S.E.
    Internship: 1. Ashok leyland as Summer trainee for 1.5 months
    2. Chittaranjan Locomotive Works as Summer Trainee for 2 mnths

    I would be highly obliged if i get an evaluation for my profile and my chances of getting into HEC, ESCP or EMLyon

    • Posted by - vishwajitster - on 7 December 2013 - 4:36pm

      Hi Subham, I have the same dilemma as yours and have just 3 days left to decide. Can you write to me at so that we can discuss in detail over this.

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 5 December 2013 - 8:59pm

      Hi there,

      here is my personal opinion: If you need the scholarship to be able to study, I would play openly and tell them that without a scholarship you can't accept the offer. Then see how they react. If they don't provide you with a satisfying answer I would not enroll.

      best wishes

      By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 5 December 2013 - 6:21pm

      I have received an admission offer from escp and has been advised to submit 5000euros by 10th dec. but they have not informed about my eligibility to compete for eiffel and other school based scholarships. It will be thankful if you shed light in this regard,,

    • Posted by - Narru - on 22 November 2013 - 9:34pm

      SAI website says results will be out early december. Cheers

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 20 November 2013 - 12:14pm

      Right now I stand in the same place as you....really have no idea of the same....

    • Posted by - agarwalanu - on 20 November 2013 - 9:30am

      Hello Subham,
      I too had my Interview for SAI (MIM 2014) on the same day as you did. Can you please tell me, by when should we expect a reply from them regarding the final decision?
      Thank you.

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 15 November 2013 - 2:43pm

      I had my SAI interview yesterday. It was a 45mins interview with a 4-member panel. The panel asked abt. why france, why mim....and such stereotype questions. apart from this they told me to discuss my entrepreneurial goals to which i explained so. I told my short term goal is to work as a supply chain manager and then after around 10 yrs. would start my business. They advised that since supply chain is a region specific job i should pursue it from India and since i have good entrepreneurial goals i should go for a MBA and not MIM. I am confused regarding few things.
      What does the interview really checks? Does it reviews our goals and aspirations or just simply measures in some predefined parameters as confidence, fluency, reaction under pressure etc.? And lastly do u think such opinions of the panel will have negative impact on my interview score?

      • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 17 November 2013 - 2:24pm

        Hi there,

        I think I have answered some of your questions already (cf. my a,b,c,d points in my earlier comment). Depending on the interviewer, of course, interviews often check both, your "goals and aspirations" as well as "some predefined parameters as confidence, fluency, reaction under pressure". The more selective the schools are, the more capable will be their students in terms of reflective capacities, and the more capable are their alumni who often lead the interviews. That's why highly selective schools often have alumni from top consultancy companies doing the interview - and that can be tough.

        What you perceive as "stereotype questions" are simple questions to check your reasons and how serious you have considered them. If someone sends me an application for a position in my team, I also ask: Why that position? What do you expect from it? Why shall we employ you and how can you help us? etc.

        The question about your goals is also pretty straight forward. The school wants to see whether the Master makes sense for the person or if a different degree would be better. The applicant is not always able to fully assess that and the school may be able to have a more granular view. Is is a valuable information if a school recommends you the MBA instead of the MIM or vice versa.

        And yes, highly selective school also wants to test your capabilities in dealing with a question / problem spontaneously to bring you out of the comfort zone - similar to highly selective firms.

        "And lastly do u think such opinions of the panel will have negative impact on my interview score?"
        In general, the interviews have two overarching goals: First, finding whether you fit to the school and meet its requirements, and, second, finding the right program for you (checking if the selected program the right one). I don't know how well you did regarding the first question - but if you communicated your clear and reflected opinion, such as for instance on your goals, I cannot believe that this becomes a disadvantage. Also, the interview often counts about 20 percent only and will flow in in an overall assessment of your application. So you may still have chances to be accepted even if the interview did not run perfectly.

        If in general the school wants you, then it comes to the second question: Which program? If the school wants you, then there are two options: Either the school just recommends you the MBA but also offers you the MIM if you insist. Or the school only offers you the MBA because they think that you would be too experienced for a MIM (and hence you would not be god for the MIM class).

        Overall, I think you have made a valuable experience with this application process, even though it might have been uncomfortable at some point. If you apply somewhere else, you will profit from that. For the moment, there is nothing you can do - so I would be optimistic that you get admission; at the same time I would work on a plan B and prepare applications at other schools as well, just to be safe.

        Best wishes

        By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 6 November 2013 - 8:15pm

      Hi there,

      no one knows what questions they ask as it may depend on the individual person. However, these interviews are often used to

      (a) test your logical capabilities by asking you to solve a brief case study - you can prepare this by reading a consulting book (a book that informs about jobs in consulting and that includes case studies)

      (b) how reflected you are on your goals - e.g., why you want to do a Master and why at THAT school (and here is the answer to your question).

      (c) how you want to finance your studies

      (d) maybe other questions, e.g. why you think leadership is important etc. - since you don't know the questions here, however, there is nothing to prepare; just trust in your reasoning capabilities (or use the essay preparation of GMAT books to train that).

      Moreover, you can ask the school to bring you in contact with students of the program - and then ask them about their experiences. Since, interviews are often done by alumni and since the content of these interviews may change from alum to alum, you may get different questions anyway.

      Best wishes

      By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 6 November 2013 - 7:03pm

      sir can i know whether SAI interviewers ask school specific questions?

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 27 October 2013 - 7:24am

      Thanks for your valuable advice. I am sure it will definitely be helpful for preparing the interviews. I have another question.
      Can you give me a rough estimation of the number of indians called for interview for these 3 schools and how many indians generally make it through?

      • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 28 October 2013 - 1:16pm

        Hi there,

        thank you for your question. The best way to find answers for this is:

        • Screen the schools' websites carefully and look for for demographic statistics
        • Contact the schools admission offices and ask them. They should be able to provide you with a good answer. If not, you may re-consider if you want to invest thousands of Euros in them...

        Best wishes

        By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 26 October 2013 - 1:08pm

      Hi there,

      as for the interviews, business schools want to find out about your reflective capabilities. Can you provide a competent and credible answer why you want to do a Master? Why at that institution? They may also ask you about an important business topic as, for instance: "Do you think that leadership becomes more important in the next years? Why?". Or they may ask you on how you plan to finance your studies. The rationale behind that is to find out to what degree you are able to answer in a concise and reflected way.

      As for the scholarship question, have you screed the financial aid pages of your target schools already? If yes, what did you find out? Do they offer scholarships at all? How many? For which target groups?

      Best wishes

      By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 25 October 2013 - 6:11pm

      with a score of mere 730 what are my chances of getting eiffel and other college based scholarships?

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 25 October 2013 - 6:06pm

      I am the highest scorer of my department. So i am confident of making it to the interviews....
      What do they expect of us in interviews? What questions do SAI generally ask?
      and do you have any ideas of how many people are invited for interviews in HEC and ESCP from india,,,and how many do both of these generally admit from india?

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 25 October 2013 - 11:27am

      Hi there,

      if your CGPA is a top score (in comparison with your class at your university) than you should have great chances to become invited for the interviews. Particularly, the HEC puts a lot of emphasize on the academic grade in the undergraduate studies.

      As for the two - more or less similar - application from you and a friend: I don't see any reason why the same school should not invite both of you for the interview, given that your CGPA and GMAT are top scores (and at least the GMAT is). Whether you get admission also depends (around 20%) on the interviews.

      In general, if everything works well, I am confident that both of you will definitely get admission at one of these schools, if not at all of them.

      Best wishes

      By Thomas Graf

    • Posted by - SUBHAM - on 23 October 2013 - 6:14pm

      one of my friends from my department has also applied for the same with gmat-750, cgpa- 8.4/10.
      will that affect my application or in other words will these colleges take two students from the same university with same bachelors degree major?