Posted by raghavkhurana on 07/17/13 7:12pm
My name is Raghav Khurana and i have done by bachelors in engineering in biomedical sciences followed by an MBA from an average B school in India (IBS gurgaon). I am presently working with a reputed Bank and have more than two years of work experience, but want to increase my exposure internationally and to work at a more strategic level and hitting the goal of working with an Management Consulting firm.
I am considering for applying in MIM, MSc in Management Consulting and MSc in management across various university. Do you think it is justifiable to do a MSc after a MBA?
If yes, then how effective it will in getting placed in MNCs. If No, then which other course should i pursue.
Work Ex: 2 and half yearsMBA CGPA : 7/10BE : 52%Senior Secondary (XII): 76%High School (Xth) : 78%
Thank you for your help.
Posted by Thomas Graf on 07/18/13 12:54am
thank you for your question. Given you profile, you are on the way to become the typical MBA camdidate. A Master in Management typically is for graduates or recent graduates while the Master of Business Administration (MBA) is for professionals.
I don't know where you got your MBA from and I know that in some countries it is normal to grant the MBA already without work experience. But that's not the idea behind the MBA, at least not as I see it and as it is maintained in most countries. The MBA is a meeting place for professionals to exchange their experiences, receive a very practical management education, and apply for advanced jobs afterwards. The Master in Management (MIM) typically is for graduates or people with only little work experience. Please read our article on MIM and MBA.
Now, from your message I read that you are not happy with your current career perspectives and that your MBA didn't satisfy you in these respects.What can you do now in terms of increasing your education?
I do NOT recommend you doing a Master in Management - and I don't think that many schools would accept you. Why? Because they want graduates or recent graduates that apply for job entry positions afterwards - not for professionals like you.
You could do the MBA again, but at at school with more career potential. This would, however, provide you with redundant content and would create some irritation for future employers that read your CV.
Or, you may consider doing a specialized Master in a field of your interest (e.g. finance, consulting, IT management, HR, supply chain management, accounting etc.). You can search for these programs using the filter "Program type" in our search engine.
Or, you can keep on working, maybe at the same employer, maybe at a different employer, and consider a part-time education at some point in the future. This education would primarily focus in ednowing you with extra knowledge - for example in general management (part-time MBA or part-time MSc in Management) or in a specialized area of your interest (e.g. finance, accounting etc.).
I understand that you are in a reflection process and this process may hold on for a while. That's good because you need to weigh your options carefully against each other. Outlining some of your options above hopefully helps you with this.
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Posted by raghavkhurana on 07/18/13 8:56pm
Thank you for your reply.
Firstly, Yes, it is very much prevelant here in india, that one gets MBA w/o a work exp.
Secondly, i am really into a masters course with an area of specialisation (Management consulting/Strategic managemnt). But with your experience, and people with whom you interact, how often do you encounter candidates with double MBA and what would be a general prospect for such candidates in carrer perspective.
And truly, i am in the reflection process and would certianly weigh the options and my hard earned money into a program.
Thank you once again for the swift reply.
Posted by Thomas Graf on 07/19/13 2:18pm
I have never encountered someone with a double MBA but I wanted to mention this option for the brainstorming process. Personally, I tend to recommend you the specialized option so that you do not only enrich your cv with the reputation of renowned business school and its network (though these two benefits should guide you in selecting a school) but also with new knowledge that enriches your competence.
You can either look for specialized Masters (e.g. in the MIM Compass search engine) or - maybe an alternative - for MBA programs with an explicit specialization. You can find them on the MBA Compass website under "Concentration".
I have never been favoring those MBA programs in the past since specializations and (general management) MBA programs always appeared to me as contradicting each other. Today I think, however, that a general management MBA with some specialization courses in the advanced stages may make sense for some schools that have a strong competence in a specific business area and the appropriate network to companies in that area (e.g. schools that have the competence in logistics, are based in an important city for logistics, and have the company network).
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Posted by Swarna latha on 05/14/18 11:02am
Hi,My name is M.swarna latha, I have completed my MBA on February 2018. I am searching for a job in colleges. I have interest to teach statistics but they need M. Sc candidates. So can I do M. Sc? Is I am eligible to do. My MBA percentage is 8.16 CGPA. I have done my degree B. Sc computer science in the year 2011. After completion of my graduation, I have joined in job and I have experience of 3 years.If yes, please tell me
Posted by thomas.graf on 05/15/18 10:04am
if you are just interested in doing a Master of Science - well, then all you need is an undergraduate degree. if you are interested in Masters in Management specifically and in so-called top schools, then you should inform yourself about what these schools expect from their candidates - and here I recommend you to read the eBook "The MIM - Entry Requirements for the Master in Management".
Posted by Aman Jain on 12/24/18 6:02pm
Hello,My name is Aman Jain, an year earlier I did my MBA from an average university here in India after working for one year in a private ltd company post BBA and being unsatisfied with my profile I have decided to pursue another MBA from a reputed university probably from western Europe but the problem is the ongoing confusion inside my head after several suggestions from people about doing a Msc in management instead of an MBA. I would highly appreciate any type of suggestion from you if doing a Msc in management would be any better post MBA for my career and profile or should I simply just go for another MBA. Waiting to hear your advise.
Thank you,Aman Jain
Posted by thomas.graf on 12/27/18 9:24pm
please read my article on MIM vs MBA.
By Thomas GrafAuthor of the MIM eBook
Posted by sneha nair on 01/24/19 6:44pm
Can i pursee ms degree in canada or australia.Right now i am pursing mba in IT after my btech in electronics.Please reply can i pursee ms in computer network or IT after my mba?
Posted by thomas.graf on 01/25/19 9:55am
why should you not be able to do an MS in IT or other areas after your MBA? Just check the admissions criteria of your favorite schools.
A different question is whether you WANT to pursue an MS in IT. This is a specialized education in a specific area where you will be qualified as an expert - wheras the MBA provides you with a general management education. If you want that specialized education - e.g., to work in such an area after graduating - then it makes sense.
Another question to consider may be the type of program. Instead of studying full-time, you may also find a part-time program that allows you to keep on working and earning money.
Posted by Raja nandini gaddam on 04/23/19 7:02pm
Can we do MSC after MBA?If yes,what are the advantages and disadvantages?
Posted by thomas.graf on 04/24/19 12:45pm
studying a Master after the MBA - in general - is possible. However, there may be some thoughts to consider.
Ususally, you do an MBA with a minimum of 2 years of work experience. This means that you are not a graduate or career starter anymore.
Most postgraduate degrees in business beyond the MBA are "pre-experience" degrees, however. This means that either they focus on graduates with no or few work experience only and you won't be eligible for them - or you may be eligible but find yourself in a class of much younger students and you may meet employers coming on the campus for recruiting career-starters (and nor professionals like you).
Therefore, I recommend you to watch out for "post-experience" degrees. In finance, for instance, you find the Financial Times Master in Finance Post-experience Ranking.
If you are interested in the MSc in Management (MIM), particularly, basically all of them are pre-experience degrees. They focus on graduates with no or few work experience. Content-wise (similar content as MBA, though more theoretical), career-wise (focus on career-starters), and eligibility-wise (focus on graduates), the MIM does not make sense AFTER the MBA.
Posted by Ananya on 05/08/19 7:48am
Hi, i am currently pursuing mba in finance specialization and was thinking of pursuing msc finance in some good university abroad.. Do you think its worth purusing Msc after completing MBA and having a work ex of around 2 yrs after mba
Posted by thomas.graf on 05/08/19 10:45am
I don't know if it's worth it FOR YOU. It depends on what you plan to achieve with it.
If you are interested in finance and wish to gain competence here - of course, it is worth it.If you wish to work as finance expert afterwards, of course it will be an important qualification.
If you want to work in a specific company, a specific industry, at a specific salary... and if you want to know your chances to get your Wants fulfilled with a MSc, then you have to assess this in advance.
In my eBook Business Masters I provide several tips how to do this. For instance,
Also, since you have work experience, I recommend you to consider deciding for a Postexperience MSc in Finance - as opposed to studying a Preexperience MSc in Finance.
Posted by Ananya on 05/09/19 3:56pm
Thankyou soo much.. for your valuable advise...
Posted by Pavan Rao on 06/08/19 3:22pm
HelloI am currently pursuing my mba from a tier 2 college in India and plan to pursue a master in finance from a reputed university in USAAny suggestion ?
Posted by thomas.graf on 06/12/19 11:08am
thank you for reaching out. We never provide suggestions here as (1) we consider this as your job - and the search job is important to make yourself familiar with the educational landscape and to eventually make a good decision and (2) because you are the only one who knows what you really want.
We do, however, provide tips on finding the "best" program - and the best program is alwas the best program for YOU. E.g., the program that maximizes the chances that you reach your career goals after graduation and minimizes your costs.
For this, we suggest a step-by-step procedure that we describe in the ebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA. The procedure described there can be referred to all sorts of business masters, including the MIM, MBA or Master in Finance.
Posted by Poonam on 06/24/19 9:11am
I am currently pursuing my mba in finance, now I want to do msc computer science, can i apply for this?
Posted by thomas.graf on 06/25/19 11:52am
yes, you can. You will be the only one in the class with an MBA but this makes you even more interesting for your fellow students.
Posted by Rizin on 07/24/19 9:08am
As a recent undergraduate I’d like to pursue a postgraduate degree but I’m confused whether to take up MBA or MSc. If I choose MSc, will I have to do MBA later in my career for promotions into managerial positions or will MSc be enough for getting into managerial positions?
Posted by thomas.graf on 07/25/19 12:16pm
the MIM is for entry positions (to start a career). The MBA is for young or more experienced professionals who want to advance their career (full-time and part-time MBA) or even senior managers who want to network etc. (Executive MBA).
My recommendation is: Decide what you need now. And decide what you need later NOT today but at the right time in the future.
Posted by Haris Ali on 11/08/19 9:48pm
Hi,Im doing MBA in Supply Chain Management. Im looking to do MSc in transport and logistics. Is it a wise decision to do so? Or is it even possible for me to do so ? I have done bachelors and intermediate in Commerce. I have no Job experience. any kind of help would be great for me.
Thank YouHaris Ali
Posted by thomas.graf on 11/11/19 10:11am
in my opinion, there are two primary reasons why someone would do a Master's. Out of pure interest or to increase his/her job prospects after the degree. Or both reasons of course.
Reason number 1 is something you should know,Reasons number 2 is somethign you should have investigated in. Read my Business Masters eBook to understand how.
From the outside, it appears a bit strange that you wish to do another degree... it may be worth focussing all your energy on your job entry aftre the MBA and consider another degree at a later stage, maybe after 2 to 3 years of professional experience.
Posted by Jeetu on 12/31/19 6:18am
Hi,I am MBA graduate from a tier 2 college in India with a 2.5 yrs work ex post MBA but I want to pursue my career in consulting/ business analytics . So is it advisable to go for an MSc in business analytics / management consultancy?
Posted by thomas.graf on 01/01/20 4:06pm
a key question here is whether you want a general management education - then go for the MBA - or a specialized education - then go for the MSc. And that question depends on what you want to do AFTER the MBA/Msc.
Pleae read my eBook How you find the best Master in Management or MBA to understand better the differences between the program types and how you make the best decision for yourself.
Thomas GrafAuthor of the two MIM eBooks
Posted by Renal Nunes on 01/04/20 7:01pm
I am currently pursuing an MBA in finance, I am thinking to opt for MSc in Risk management from abroad. Can you please share your valuable insights regarding this?
Posted by thomas.graf on 01/06/20 6:25pm
the most important criterion for choosing a program and school - in my opinion - is what you want to do with the degree AFTER graduating. The key question then is: Will this degree at that school help me achieve my goals afterwards?
To screen programs and schools regarding this, there are several ways as I outline abundantly in my eBook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA. Please read it carefully and apply the tips for selecting your MSc program.
Posted by Akshay Nair on 01/24/20 6:40pm
Hi Akshay hereI have completed my btech in 2018 and after getting a 2 years work experience will it be good for me to pursue Msc in marketing from Canada and then later doing MBA from Canada itself .Will it give a boost to my profile ??Pls do replyCheers
Posted by Kunal B on 03/05/20 7:24pm
Hi,I have completed M.Sc Biochemistry in 2011, M.Tech food in 2014. I am working as Team member in McDonald Restaurant. In 2020-21 academic year I want to go for MBA course for My better career. Which specialization will be best for me ? And do I get placed in reputed and long run companies ? Because I want to escape from My current Job and want to do good timing and future safe guaranteed Job.
Posted by thomas.graf on 03/06/20 10:52am
first of all: Are you aware that an MBA is degree without specialization at all? Of course, there are MBA programs with concentrations - e.g., the MBA in Health Care Management - but overall it is a general management degree. Are you sure that's what you want?
To me a general management MBA makes sense for someone with a specialized Master degree like you. The idea is to become an expert in a specific area such as biochemistry and then broaden your profile with a business degree. So far, I think your approach would be sensible.
The question "Which MBA?", however, is more difficult and refers to "Which MBA will be the best for you and your career goals?". It depends on your career goals, your resources (have you made the GMAT already?) and your previous job.
At this point I recommend you to read carefully my ebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management or MBA as this will clarify a lot of things for you.
Thomas GrafAuthor of the two MIM eBooksOwner of the MIM Compass
Posted by Vaibhav Jain on 04/24/20 12:50pm
I would like to introduce myself as an experienced professional working remotely on freelance basis for a US based firm since 3 year. I have done my MBA(Marketing Management) back in 2015 from a tier III indian institution after completing my B.Com in 2013. I worked two year 2015-17 as an entrepreneur than joined a US firm as an independent contractor.My academics are MBA- 8.58/10, B.Com - 77.24%, GRE-307 and Ielts - 7 overall.
I would like guidance on which is better for me a specialized master in marketing or international business or pursuing a double MBA. I am targeting top B-Schools of UK or Europe and would like to know about which would be more beneficial for me in terms of career progression, job prospects and pay.Is it justifiable to have a double MBA to international employers or a specialized master path would be good for entry and previous MBA would help me further in progression after working for 2-3 years.
Thanks and Regards,Vaibhav Jain
Posted by thomas.graf on 04/24/20 2:38pm
if I was you, I would ask my self, first of all: What do I want to achieve with another degree?
If you to another degree learn something, then what?Do I want to deepen my knowledge in a specific area such as marketing - or do I want to acquire general management knowledge (e.g., via an MBA)?
If you want to do another degree to increase your career perspectives...
Understand my logic?
To depen this, I recommend you to thoroughly read my guidebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management and MBA would make a lot of sense.
Best wishes,Thomas Graf
Founder of the MIM CompassAuthor of the MIM eBooks
Posted by Maneet on 06/18/20 1:17am
I am a professional working as Sr. Technical Sales Engineer and have 5years of work experience. Due to my poor academics in graduation, I was rejected by top UK schools for MBA. I got admission into tier 3 institutes which lack the credible accreditation of AACSB and AMBA. I want to pursue my career in mainly operations and project management. Should I go for the MBA or do MSc in Supply Chain and Operations if I can get admitted into good schools with accreditation. It's really confusing.
Posted by thomas.graf on 06/18/20 10:24am
There are two approaches in my opinion:
FIRST APPROACHYou start a postgraduate program because you want to LEARN something and because you want to INCREASE YOUR COMPETENCE in something and because you want to INCREASE YOUR CHANCE to get a job that REQUIRES THIS COMPETENCE.
For instance, you want to work as a controller: You get a qualification in controlling.You want to work as a supply chain manager: You get a qualification in supply chain management.
So, ask yourself: What kind of job do you want to do in the future and which qualification - MBA or Master in Supply Chain Management or any other qualification - would qualify you better for your targeted kind of job?
SECOND APPROACHYou want to work for specific companies - then you have to choose a specific institution (e.g., a business school) that increases your chance to work for your target firm(s).
E.g., you want to work for McKinsey or BCG? Find out at which campuses McKinsey or BCG recruit from. Check the career platforms of your target schools, talk to McK/BCG alumni, or simply ask the companies to find this out.
Then apply at these schools. If your profile does not fulfill the selection criteria of the school, choose another school and maybe accept that probably you won't make it to your target firms and choose a different target employer instead.
For more info on decision-making in finding the best education for you, please read my guidebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management and MBA.
Posted by Pranjal on 08/06/20 5:46pm
Hello,After going through the entire thread I totally agree with the fact that MBA gives a general perspective on business and has no specialization as such.I am a BTech graduate, with 1.5 years of work experience in IT field. Currently pursuing my MBA(2nd year) from Indian Institute of Technology- Delhi, India which is a top tier busines school. However, I do not feel I am specialized in any certain field. Quite a late realization, as it is quite normal in India to have fresh graduates doing MBA.I am currently contemplating to go for a specialized MSc in Marketing Research/Analytics or Consumer Research, outside of India to have international exposure and career prospects abroad. So accordingly, I have the following queries:
Posted by thomas.graf on 08/07/20 9:25am
on one hand, I would find it a bit irritating why you do a Bachelor + MBA + MS without having much work experience in between. It indeed looks like your MBA didn't provide you with too much of value since a specialization can be obtained on the job or besides a job as well. So yes, I think it could decrease the worth of your MBA.
On the other hand, you can convince HR manager in your job interviews by providing a good rationale for this. Why not openly saying that for your career goals you needed more specialized knowledge and that you found this in the MS, plus you wanted to have an international exposure - I think this makes sense.
Will you have any career benefit because of your MBA? Hard to say in such a general way - it depends on where you apply for which position etc. Personally I would not trust too much in this - at least the MBA won't hurt. The question is irrelevant anyway, however. You did the MBA - so whether it provides an extra benefit or not is somthing you will find out in your job interviews.
Will the MS in 2022 be positive or negative? Education is always positive in my opinion, no matter when. Since you have two academic qualifications already, however, I like the idea of placing your emphasis on gaining work experience now. Hence, postponing the MS sounds better to me than doing it immediately after the MBA.
Posted by Chandan Hebbar on 08/28/20 5:57pm
I'm a commerce student and finished my MBA in the year 2014 and since then I have been working for a multi national company till date. Currently I'm looking to pursue Masters in Data Science in the UK for Jan 2021 and hence would need some recommendations on whether if it is feasible for me to take up this course?
Thank you in advance.
Posted by thomas.graf on 08/31/20 10:45am
we don't provide recommendations on programs or schools here because what can be THE best school for person 1 can be suboptimal for person 2 and vice versa. We provide recommendations on a strategy, however, how to find the best Business Master in our guidebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management and MBA.
Posted by Kaviya on 02/18/21 3:10pm
I am completed Masters in Microbiology. Could I do MBA hospital management .Is it worth or waste of time. can you clarify my doubts??
Posted by thomas.graf on 02/18/21 4:20pm
Well, this depends on your goals. If your goals are aligned with the MBA then why should it be a waste of time?
Do you know what an MBA is?What the potential benefits are?Whom it is for?What the requirements are?How you find the "best" MBA for your profile and career goals?
More infos in my guidebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management and MBA.
Posted by stevejack on 04/27/21 12:11pm
I want to study MBA but couldn't decide which program is in demand and has a vast scope nowadays. I have searched and study about lot of programs but not able to decide. There are many universities that are offering online degree programs but these programs also have variations among courses. Kindly guide me about anything useful.
Posted by thomas.graf on 04/27/21 12:36pm
Excellent question: Why don't you have a look into my my guidebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management and MBA - here you find guidelines how you find the best program for you.
Posted by Ankita on 06/12/21 10:55am
Hi, I am Ankita Agarwal pursuing MBA with specialization in Finance after completing bachelors in economics. Both my degrees have been from tier 2 colleges in India. I am planning to further undertake another degree but I am confused among a few options. Is it advisable to go ahead with MA/MSc Economics (part time) and then sometime later in career focus on FRM or I should just be doing FRM post my MBA? Will the masters in economics add value to my career at this stage or it will make no impact and hence skipping the efforts is advisable? I am looking for a career in finance and wanting to work in major financial & banking companies.
Posted by thomas.graf on 06/14/21 11:46am
my impression from the distance is that you run into the trap of becoming "over-degreed" and "under-work experienced".
An undergraduate degree and a Master should typically be sufficient for finding a job (whether it is your dream job or not). Your job will allow you to gain work experience. Then an MBA is one option to give your career a new boost - along with executive education in management or more specific education such as FRM.
What I understand from you is that you already have a BA in economics and currently pursue a Master (MBA) with specialization in finance. My advise now would be: Find a job, gain work experience and consider another education after having completed 2 or 3 years of work at minimum.
Then, you have to decide which education contributes most to your career goals. Is it a specialization in a specific area such as risk management? Is it a more general degree such as a MBA at a renowned institution abroad? Only you can answer these questions as they depend on yor career goals - and my guidebook Business Masters - How you find the best Master in Management and MBA will help you with this.
But for the moment, I think you should finish your MBA and gain work experience.
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