Forum: General Forum (13 Comments)

mim strictly in usa

  • Posted by - ameya23 - on 16 May 2013 - 9:18pm

    hello sir,
    i am an engeneering graduate..
    i really wants to do mba..but it requires work-experience and i dont want to break my study rhythm..
    so can u tell me is there universities in usa which offers mba without work exp??

    also if i go for mim..
    please suggest me the best 4-5 schools in usa as my family strictly wants me to do job in usa.
    and mim in usa will lead me to a good job or not??
    please help me

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 30 June 2013 - 7:38pm

      Hi there,

      thank you for your question. I am afraid to say that we have not assessed the tests that universities require in our database. Please understand that exploring thousands of universities and their thousands and thousands of programs (acknowledging that some programs may accept the GRE while others not) would be an incredible if not impossible job. It appears to be much more efficient if students check this by themselves when they visit a school's admissions website anyway.

      I can tell you, however, that based on our Global MIM Study 2012 less than half of the MIM programs requier the GMAT - and those programs not requiring the GMAT (more than 50%) either require the GRE or do not require such an analytical test at all.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

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    • Posted by - ameya23 - on 29 June 2013 - 8:21am

      sir
      one more thing..
      can u please tell me the universities which accepts gre scores??

    • Posted by - ameya23 - on 24 June 2013 - 4:38pm

      thanks thomas..
      one more thing i want to know is many universities offer 1 year mim
      while others offer 2 years course...
      whats the difference in that??
      is 2 years good for finding job??

      • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 25 June 2013 - 3:41pm

        Hi there,

        thank you for your question. Longer programs ususally offer the option to gain more competence because you attend more courses. For example, you may have the option to specialize by choosing electives in the advanced part of the program; such programs may also offer practical phases such as internships or in-company projects. So, you probably learn more (and gain more competence) and you may gain exposure to the real business world or even meet your future employer in such a project. In that respect, a longer program may indeed provide you with benefits for your job entry.

        On the other hand, you have more costs due to more expenses for your living and due to the opportunity costs, that is the money that you forego by not working.

        Hence, this is a trade-off. I recommend you to carefully screen the program structure of your target programs and compare 1-year and 2-year programs. Then, as a next step, I would contact the schools' career offices and ask how many percent found a job 3 months after graduation and if 2-year graduates from programs with a company project found their job at precisely the employer where they spent their project.

        Best wishes
        Thomas

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    • Posted by - ameya23 - on 5 June 2013 - 5:56am

      sir i read in one article that uk have some problems with visas..
      so whilw aiming for schools should i take this into consideration??
      because at this time aiming the best schools is really imp for me..

      • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 10 June 2013 - 5:42pm

        Hi there,

        thank you for your question. It is true that the UK-VISA regulations have been changed in the last years making it more difficult for Non-UK graduates to find a job there. Still, I see three reasons to do a Master there.

        First, UK schools have a great reputation beyond the UK. So, you may find a job in another country because of your UK business school's reputation.

        Second, high quality UK schools offer more than a reputation - for instance, they may offer a great education or network to other students and alumni that may be beneficial for you.

        Third, even though the VISA regulations are strict it is not impossible to find a job. Please have a look here to find examples of students who got a 2-tier VISA in the UK. There you find also the link to the UK Border Agency with more information.

        Best wishes
        Thomas

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    • Posted by - ameya23 - on 20 May 2013 - 12:32pm

      sir i want to know whether mim is that much developed in us that it will yield me a good or satisfactorily job..
      and if i went for uk..will the language there will be barrier for me..(as i am an indian student..more familiar about english and not familiar with other languages)..

      • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 20 May 2013 - 8:08pm

        Hi there,

        thank you for your question. The MIM is less recognized inthe US than in Europe. So, when you check the websites of US MIM programs try to find out the general recognition and reputation of that school. The higher it is the more likely you wil find a job with a MIM degree.

        Also, check for a school's reputation for its MBA programs. If a school is highly ranked with MBAs it likely provides a MIM with a promising recognitin as well, simply because the degree is granted by the same school.

        Finally, make sure that you clear in advance where you want to work after graduating and whether such companies come to campus to recruit. If you, e.g., want to work for KPMG and KPMG recruits at the campus of your favorite US school. doing a MIM there may be beneficial for you.

        As for your question on the UK, I am not sure if I understand you. Why should you face language problems in the UK where English is spoken?

        Best wishes
        Thomas

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        • Posted by - ameya23 - on 4 June 2013 - 8:00pm

          sir not for uk but will langauge be barrier for me for other countries in europe??

        • Posted by - ameya23 - on 4 June 2013 - 7:46pm

          Thanks for your answer sir..
          another thing is while searching the websites i found that many schools requirement is gmat score for mim while some other considers the admission on gre score..and some on both...
          so while preparing..
          i should go for gre or gmat??

          • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 4 June 2013 - 9:24pm

            Hi there,

            thank you for your question. Language should not be a problem outside of the UK. Of course, there are also regional Masters in Management taught in the respective language. But the majority of MIM programs is taught in English - and that's yoru target list of programs.

            As for the tests, I recommend you to consider the schools where you want to apply for first - and then doing the test that they require. If you still want to do a test in advance, I recommend the GMAT. It is valid for 5 years so that you can use it in some years as well in case you should wannt to go for an MBA. Also, as for my best experience, there is no school that requires only the GRE and does not accept the GMAT. In other words, school that require the GMAT may not accept the GRE. But schools hat require the GRE will also accept the GMAT. Hence, the GMAT is safer.

            Best wishes
            Thomas

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    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 17 May 2013 - 12:04pm

      Hi there,

      thank you for your question.

      MBA without work experience
      I wouldn't recommend to go into this. An MBA is a degree for professionals who want to develop their career. It is NOT a degree for graduates. I don't know of a program that grants an MBA degree without requiring work experience - and if I should find one I would strongly doubt its seriousness and quality. For graduates like you, who want a master in general management, the Master in Management (MIM) or Master in Business is the right degree.

      MIM in the US
      The Master in Management is not as proliferated in the US as in Europe. Overall, we found only 69 fulltime MIM programs in North America, 51 of them in the US. As a starting point to assess the quality, I recommend you (1) check schools with one of the three internationally accepted accreditations and (2) rankings on business edcuation such as on MBA, EMBA, or executive education. Of course, US schools are not included in the FT MIM Ranking but a school renowned for its MBA program likely operates also a good MIM.

      Does the MIM in the US lead to a good job or not?
      I understand your question. But as I did many times before in this Forum I need to advise re-framing the question. There is simply no way to generally say whether "a" MIM (as opposed to a "specific" MIM) "leads" (as opposed to "can help you raise your chances to" ) a "good job" (as opposed to "a job that satisfies you" ). I recommend to reflect clearly your own preferences and goals and become specific (!) here. Then you can use these goals as a map that guides you in your search process. For instance, if you want to work in investment banking your search process will be guided by this such that you screen the schools' websites for placement statistics and try to find out where your favorite employers recruit.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

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