Posted by - soumyaranjan61@gmail.com - on 21 August 2013 - 5:53pm

• Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 22 August 2013 - 12:41am

  Hi there,

  thank you for your question. Here some thoughts that come to my mind when I read your post (pretty difficult to read, by the way, coz all in capitals...).

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  First: Congrats to your GMAT score. That's awesome - you must be a genius!

  Second: It is very early to consider a master's degree. If you are studying your undergrads just for 5 months you will need at least 2.5 more years, right? A long time... Please don't misunderstand me - it is great that you think about your future early. Just keep in mind that in 1.5 or 2 years when you apply for a Master many things can be different (e.g., your private situation, your goals, the job market etc.).

  Third: As for the TOEFL or IELTS both tests are equally valuable. My personal impression is that the TOEFL is a bit more proliferated in Europe, though. The TOEFL should not be a problem for you - the language part in the GMAT, for instance, is much more difficult.

  Fourth: As for the German Masters in Management, please use our search engine with the following filters:

  • Program type: Masters in General Management
  • Teaching Mode: full-time
  • Country: Germany
  • Entry requirements: "no academic background in business required".

  Then you see that there are only 16 programs - the other about 50 programs not listed here require a first degree in business. Hence, you have a choice but as a graduate with an engineering background you have less choice in Germany when it comes to Masters in General Management (MIM).

  I recommend that you screen the websites of these 16 programs in depth and thoroughly: Admission requirements, curriculum, structure, career statistics etc.

  Fifth: Are your business courses helpful? They are definitely helpful as they show that you have an interest and basic knowledge in business contexts.

  Sixth: if you are interested in Masters in Marketing you find 5 target programs. Screen them as well.

  Finally, I stumble upon your expression "Job certainty". Let me be very clear and honest here: There is nothing like a job certainty, not eve in Germany these days. And the reason is that getting a job depends on many things. The economy, the career service of a school, your overall cv, your personal performance in the interviews, etc.

  Doing a Master's degree at a business school in Germany may help you find a job but is not necessarily an advantage over a degree form abroad. It all depends. For example, if you want to work for BCG or McKinsey you have to graduate at a limited number of schools - otherwise you will not be taken into consideration. If you do a degree in Germany where McKinsey does not recruit you have no chance. If you graduate at a school abroad, however, where they recruit, you have a chance.

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  Bottom line: Try to clarify your potential and ideal employers first. Where do you want to work? Which industry? Which employers? Then do these things:

  (1) Screen the schools' websites for career statistics and call them - try to find out who has recruited graduates from your target program? Are these the firms you want to work for?

  (2) Contact the employers' HR departments (from your top 3 firms) and try to get into dialogue with them. What are their favorite campuses to recruit from?

  (3) Try not only to identify a school and program where your favorite employers recruit BUT ALSO where people of your nationality studied. You can find this out through the schools' websites or by contacting the admission offices. The idea here is: If a school has no experience in placing people from your country this may not be the best place for you....

  Now you have a lot of new thought and a road map. I hope it is helpful.

  Best wishes
  Thomas

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  • Posted by - Shantanu - on 30 April 2021 - 12:43pm

    Sir, I am engineering student from India, currently pursuing 3rd year of my course. I wanted to ask which colleges in Germany accept students for Masters in management program for engineering backround students?

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    • Posted by - thomas.graf - on 3 May 2021 - 10:57am

      Hello,

      here you can find it out: Go to mim-compass.com, select "Germany" and "no academic backround in business required" and check the results.

      Best wishes,
      Thomas Graf

      Founder of the MIM Compass
      Author of the MIM eBooks

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  • Posted by - soumyaranjan61@gmail.com - on 23 August 2013 - 7:07pm

    thanks sir,
    well first of all sorry for writing capitals...i thought it will helpful to read but it was a fiasco .and the 5 month exp. i mentiond was of my work exp.as i completed my engg. and was a lecture in engg. college teching students analog electronics subject..and i m plaaning for management as i want to leave tech. field..tnx for reply that gernamy was not my cup of tea for genaral management..and yes boston consulting group , bain co.and mckinsey are my dreams..what u think about wu ,vienna/buisness engg. program in belgium..is they relevant for my needs.where should i apply/study go get placed company like bcg/mckinsey/bain co?...i am planning to join a program in sept2014 acadamic session.
    regards
    soumya ranjan

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    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 23 August 2013 - 7:43pm

      Hi Soumya,

      with 1.5 years of experience next September a Master in Management makes sense. Or, alternatively, you work another year and apply for an MBA then.

      WU Vienna has a great reputation. But if you want to become recruited by McKinsey etc. I would contact the admissions office and ask if McKinsey / BCG etc. recruit graduates from the respective program.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

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      • Posted by - soumyaranjan61@gmail.com - on 26 August 2013 - 9:01pm

        thanks,
        the survey was helpful and yeah...i recomended many of my friends in indian management preparation sites...they all said..itss really helpful for global context....and i will definatly consult you before my final selection of insitute..hope you dnt mind helping me in crucial time..thanks in advance.
        regards and thanks
        soumya ranjan

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      • Posted by - soumyaranjan61@gmail.com - on 25 August 2013 - 10:36pm

        thanks,
        really greatful for your help.and again 90 % of my doubts were unveiled by browsing this site..such a wonderful site with all info that i wanted..one thing itss missing out is the placement/job scenerio of these degree..but its really helpful.

        thanks and regards
        soumya ranjan

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        • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 25 August 2013 - 11:38pm

          Hi there,

          you can find placement information with this degree in our Global Master in Management Survey 2012. About 9 out of 10 graduates find a job within 3 months from graduating. Average salary in the first year is EUR 43,000, ranging from EUR 10,000 to 71,000. For comparison, you can also check for average salaries using the Financial Times Master in Management Ranking - the average salary there is about EUR 40,000.

          Best wishes
          Thomas

          By the way: If you like this site, I would appreciate if you could post it in forums or recommend it to you friends. Moreover, I am sure that business schools would be happy t hear about it when you interact with them or eve apply somewhere. Thank you in advance.

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