Forum: Application & Admission (4 Comments)

Employment vs. Profile :S

  • Posted by - Alexandre - on 27 November 2013 - 8:37pm

    Hello Thomas, how are you?

    I am applying for masters in some european UNIs for the 2014's winter intake. I have some doubts though.

    I am brazilian, 26, graduated in business management in the 5th best B-School of my country with a global average of 84,3%. I have plenty of work experience since I have been working since the 1st year in college. I had 4 internships being one in Chennai, India, and other small jobs in USA during school break. I also have plenty of extracurricular activities.

    Since I graduated (Aug/2010) Have been working for Ernst & Young where started in the consulting area and then, moved to the audit team. My main goal by studying in europe is staying there, since my girlfriend is german and we plan to start a life together.

    1 - I have noticed that I am above the average age for a masters (24) and below the average age for a MBA (close to 30). What kind of program do you think it would be more suitable for my profile? If I go for a 2 years program will I be considered too old (29) to start working by the employers?

    2 - What can you tell me about the employment rate of foreigners after a masters in europe? I have heard some countries like Belgium and Netherlands have a less strict labour environment regarding hiring foreigners. Is that true? what other countries are like that? Maybe its just because they are more internationalized and many people speak english.

    3 - In the occasion of a selection interview in a college, is it a bad thing if I state my intentions of remaining in the country after the course?

    Thanks in advance for your help, and warm cheers from Brazil.

    Alexandre

    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 25 December 2013 - 1:43pm

      Hi Alexandre,

      whatever firm or industry you prefer, I personally find the combination of a technical background through your undergrads + on top of that a management-related master very attractive for employers. But you should find a master where your favorite industry or specific employers recruit.

      As for the controlling/accounting and strategy, I recommend using our Search Engine and the respective "Program Types" as filters.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

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    • Posted by - Thomas Graf - on 28 November 2013 - 5:33pm

      Hi there,

      thank you for your questions.

      "1 - I have noticed that I am above the average age for a masters (24) and below the average age for a MBA (close to 30). What kind of program do you think it would be more suitable for my profile? If I go for a 2 years program will I be considered too old (29) to start working by the employers?"
      I would recommend you also to take the range into account. Some schools, for instance, may have an MBA average of 28, 29, or 32 - with a range of 25 to 35. Hence, you do not need to have the average age to fit to a specific program. Overall, you have the perfect MBA profile.

      "2 - What can you tell me about the employment rate of foreigners after a masters in europe? I have heard some countries like Belgium and Netherlands have a less strict labour environment regarding hiring foreigners. Is that true? what other countries are like that? Maybe its just because they are more internationalized and many people speak english."
      In our Global Master in Management Survey 2013 we found that 85 percent found a job within 3 months of graduating - and about half of the graduates found a job in the country where the business school is located. This survey was conducted among 45 schools (you find them in the infographic and in the report). To get more specific information, here are some suggestions:

      • The schools' websites should show you some student demographics. If your target programs (in France, Belgium or wherever) have many international students, you could contact the admissions office and ask where they find a job.

      • You could also ask your target schools to bring you in contact with an ex student (ideally from Latin America) that you can talk to. He or she may tell you about the general recruiting situation in his/her class.

      • You can contact your embassy in the respective countries to investigate in the economy and VISA regulations.

      "3 - In the occasion of a selection interview in a college, is it a bad thing if I state my intentions of remaining in the country after the course?"
      I wouldn't see a reason why this should be a disadvantage. If I was you, I would say that you plan to find a job in Europe (by this you express some international perspective and flexibility) and that your priority is the respective country of the campus. You can even ask how good the chances are from the perspective of the school and if the school has experience with placing non-European students among local employers.

      Best wishes
      Thomas

      By Thomas Graf

      • Posted by - Alexandre - on 20 December 2013 - 3:06pm

        Hey Thomas, thanks for the answer.

        My aim with this masters/MBA is getting a job in a high performance company regarthless of its size. Since my aim is performance, I was looking for highly technical institutions, that focus on knowledge instead of business skills and situations. I thought that with a solid technical background I would have better employment chances, since I already have a good resume. On the other hand it migh be risky, since companies focus in business focused rather than technical focused institutions. I would like to know you opinion on that.

        Do you know which are the highly technical european institutions in the two fields below?

        • Controlling/accounting
        • strategy

        Again, thank you very much.

        Alexandre Ziviani